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    Looking for assistance in Identifying this Mauser

    Hello all!

    Today is my first day on these forums and Im trying to start off with a bang! I am seeking any assistance I can get so that I can make this forearm right again.
    I recently took in what I believe to be a Spanish Mauser receiver and barrel on trade for some work I did. However I am very lacking in the knowledge department of these firearms. I have scoured the internet and determined, well honesty nothing lol.

    When looking at the gun I have also been unable to determine caliber as it is not stamped anywhere on the rifle.

    If possible please see the attached photographs and together lets make this bad boy a functional rifle again.

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    I will make some guesses. Oveido arsenal, I think was in Spain. That is a small ring Mauser. So likely chambered in 7x57 Mauser, as a guess. First picture - that marking slot on the barrel shoulder - almost always lines up with a partner mark on the receiver, but on bottom dead centre. Appears to be like pipe wrench marks on that chamber area. Put those clues together and I would guess that the barrel was screwed on without the use of a barrel vice or the benefit of headspace gauges. But, the rear sight looks to be sitting upright, so possibly that was re-soldered in place after the barrel was screwed in as far as it was. I simply do not know if that was one of the mausers that had serial numbers on both the receiver and barrel, or not. From your pictures, I would suspect that to be a "put together", and would want to verify that chamber with both a cerrosafe cast and with headspace gauges. At best, that is likely a rifle made to the pattern of 1893 mauser - the bolt face might have a flat on the bottom, and there might be a rib along the centre of the left bolt lug rail in the receiver. I do not own a Spanish 1893 to compare that to.

    I did buy a Paraguay small ring barrel chambered in 7.65x53 - I was surprised to discover that it's tenon was longer than other small ring mausers that I have here - so it is possible that the barrel installed might not be chambered for 7x57 - all the more reason to have a chamber cast done to be sure.
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    Yeah I could for sure tell it had been apart and some bubba put it back together.

    Do you think Swedish M96 Mauser Rifle Stock Assembly, Complete, 6.5X55 *Good* this stock would work for it? Again I got the gun on trade for some work I did and think it would be a cool shooter once I got it 100% safety and caliber checked.

    Also thanks for the information. If more pictures would help let me know and Ill try to grab some more on the AM of any parts you want

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    I suspect that Swede stock could be "made to work", or at least "good enough". My Father had a M1917 in 30-06 - the original stock was broken off at the wrist before he bought it - a determined farmer in the bush in Central Saskatchewan in the late 1940's whittled and gouged away at a laminate K98icon Mauser military stock and "made it fit" as his version of a "sporter" stock - Dad used that rifle for 50+ years; my brother was out after a deer with it, last fall. Among the various mausers, even if you get the action part to "fit" - hole spacing from front to back action screws should be listed in several on-line sources, you will also find that the rear sights differed - required differing inletting - and the barrels had "steps" that appear to be placed in dis-similar locations. Even within one country's line-up, not completely interchangeable - I had to order a rear hand guard for a "wanna be" Swede M94. The NOS barrel has been fitted with a correct m94 rear sight - which is different than the rear sight on the Swede M96 or M38, so needs quite different inletting for the hand guard. I have M96 hand guards that I intended to use - until I saw the difference in the rear sights. The extra inletted space does not show on the M96 stock that I intend to try to pare down and "make fit".

    ---------- Post added at 06:57 AM ---------- Previous post was at 06:49 AM ----------

    Just a note on the ad that you linked to. The title says "complete" but you will need a receiver ring to anchor the rear end of that handguard to assemble that stock to a rifle. On some rifles, pretty much have to have that ring on the receiver first, before some other parts like some sights and some bands are installed - it won't always fit over them. That receiver ring also usually sets into a groove cut for it in the lower stock - so need that ring in place even before installing that lower part, as well - can not install it with the lower wood attached.
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    Sorry for the long delay and thank you for all the assistance, I recently received a new Mauser seems like another zombie one, scabbed form parts. Looks like a Germanicon Mauser 98 to me, minus the barrel which appears to be a Springfield 1903 barrel. Plan would be to change that out for a stock 98 if I can find one.



    I used a new photo uploaded this go around seemed easier.

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    i have never seen anything like that

    ---------- Post added at 03:38 PM ---------- Previous post was at 03:33 PM ----------

    bubba really out did himself with that one , i did not even think that was possible , i would have run far and fast from that one

    so look at this object fully , not sure what you gave for it , but factor in the cost of "restoring" it to the initial cost , you are going to have way too much dough in it for a complete mis matched rifle

    i would be scared to squeeze the trigger on that,lol

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