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    Quote Originally Posted by painter777 View Post
    I posted here about a Bunker I built in my basement. You'd need a Torch to get in.... IF you find it:
    I remember reading that post. good notes for my next home - outside of California
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    Quote Originally Posted by usabaker View Post
    I was in a “transitional” period in the mid 90’s, pretty much all I will say about that, but it caused me to put almost everything that was mine in storage. These were still the days of the gun display cases – you know the ones, wood cabinet glass in the door and a drawer at the bottom.

    Because I had to rush to get my stuff and including my firearms in storage, I got a hold of an old refrigerator and gutted it. I then glued car carpet you get on the roll from the auto parts store to the interior and made racks to hold my rifles. I fixed padlocks on the door.
    I moved the refrigerator into the storage unit, which was nothing more than a building with a steel roll-up door that you can drive up to—not environmentally controlled at all. I placed the refrigerator in the far corner of the room. I gave my rifles one more cleaning and a nice coating of Breakfree CLP and brought them (incognito) to the storage unit. My big mistake is that I did not have access to them after the storage unit was filled.

    I would wake up at night thinking about my firearms and how they would be rusty, and every month I would get more and more anxious. It got to the point I was afraid even to see them. I expected the worse; I thought all of my firearms would be trash. I would not be able to get at my firearms for three years.

    When I finally relocated to San Diego, I had a house again and had unloaded everything and moved in. I cut the padlocks off the refrigerator. I got to tell you my anxiety was pining some this fierce. I opened the door and pulled out the packing that kept the rifles in place. I was shocked! I pulled each rifle out and inspected each one, and out of 16 rifles, only one, a Remington Model 12 22 WRF with an octagon barrel, had a little surface rust on the barrel, so slight that bronze wool and CLP took it right off.

    I was overjoyed at my good fortune and amazed at how well Breakfree CLP preserved my firearms. I don’t think I was ever so happy to teardown and clean all of my firearms in my life.

    Do I think this is the best oil? Well… no, I don’t; I'm sure there are oils just as good, maybe even better. But I trust Breakfree CLP for my firearms based on my military experience and what happened in my personal life. I think people should use what they trust, not what people or advertisers tell them.

    What happened to the refrigerator? Well, it got repurposed into a raised bed planter LOL

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    That is a great story. I also use BreakFree CLP for my firearms prior to putting them back in the safe. CLP also makes a special "Collector's" variant that is designed for long-term storage needs. It has a little thicker consistency and I use it on clients' guns that I know will not be used or serviced for a very long time by their owners.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Singer B View Post
    . CLP also makes a special "Collector's" variant that is designed for long-term storage needs.
    I did not know about this, I'm sure I saw it but maybe ignored it? I found Break-Free, Model: CO-4 Collector which I assume is the one you wrote about. I'm ordering it. Thank you for the lead. In my shooting bag, I have a microfiber rag that I soaked in Breakfree CLP that I keep in a ziplock. I use this to wipe my firearm down after I come out of the field back to my SUV or before leaving the range. It works great especially when you have been operating in the morning dew and rain. To make the rag, I saturate the rag and twist out any excess. I let the rag sit in my garage through the day and overnight to let the solvents evaporate and then place it in the ziplock. It leaves a light coat of oil when you wipe the firearm down.
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    Quote Originally Posted by usabaker View Post
    I was in a “transitional” period in the mid 90’s, pretty much all I will say about that, but it caused me to put almost everything that was mine in storage. These were still the days of the gun display cases – you know the ones, wood cabinet glass in the door and a drawer at the bottom.

    Because I had to rush to get my stuff and including my firearms in storage, I got a hold of an old refrigerator and gutted it. I then glued car carpet you get on the roll from the auto parts store to the interior and made racks to hold my rifles. I fixed padlocks on the door.
    I moved the refrigerator into the storage unit, which was nothing more than a building with a steel roll-up door that you can drive up to—not environmentally controlled at all. I placed the refrigerator in the far corner of the room. I gave my rifles one more cleaning and a nice coating of Breakfree CLP and brought them (incognito) to the storage unit. My big mistake is that I did not have access to them after the storage unit was filled.

    I would wake up at night thinking about my firearms and how they would be rusty, and every month I would get more and more anxious. It got to the point I was afraid even to see them. I expected the worse; I thought all of my firearms would be trash. I would not be able to get at my firearms for three years.

    When I finally relocated to San Diego, I had a house again and had unloaded everything and moved in. I cut the padlocks off the refrigerator. I got to tell you my anxiety was pining some this fierce. I opened the door and pulled out the packing that kept the rifles in place. I was shocked! I pulled each rifle out and inspected each one, and out of 16 rifles, only one, a Remington Model 12 22 WRF with an octagon barrel, had a little surface rust on the barrel, so slight that bronze wool and CLP took it right off.

    I was overjoyed at my good fortune and amazed at how well Breakfree CLP preserved my firearms. I don’t think I was ever so happy to teardown and clean all of my firearms in my life.

    Do I think this is the best oil? Well… no, I don’t; I'm sure there are oils just as good, maybe even better. But I trust Breakfree CLP for my firearms based on my military experience and what happened in my personal life. I think people should use what they trust, not what people or advertisers tell them.

    What happened to the refrigerator? Well, it got repurposed into a raised bed planter LOL

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    Nice story, thank you for share.
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    Quote Originally Posted by usabaker View Post
    I did not know about this, I'm sure I saw it but maybe ignored it? I found Break-Free, Model: CO-4 Collector which I assume is the one you wrote about. I'm ordering it. Thank you for the lead. In my shooting bag, I have a microfiber rag that I soaked in Breakfree CLP that I keep in a ziplock. I use this to wipe my firearm down after I come out of the field back to my SUV or before leaving the range. It works great especially when you have been operating in the morning dew and rain. To make the rag, I saturate the rag and twist out any excess. I let the rag sit in my garage through the day and overnight to let the solvents evaporate and then place it in the ziplock. It leaves a light coat of oil when you wipe the firearm down.
    The bottle I have is the old style black plastic bottle that says "Collector" with "Long Term Storage Protectorant" on it. Hope that helps! Since we live in the desert, I will wipe down a firearm and let it sit wet for about a half hour after the cleaning process then wipe it dry to prevent it from collecting dust. I was told CLP contains Teflon which permeates the metal and creates a layer of protection that doesn't rub off. I don't know if that is true but the CLP has served me well with my duty guns and my current CCW pistol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Singer B View Post
    "Collector" with "Long Term Storage Protectorant" on it.
    I think they have changed the labeling. When I was looking for the "Collector" I found this "new" Breakfree on their website "BREAK FREE® MIL-SPEC CLP™" I didn't know there was a difference .. I ordered two 4oz bottles to check it out.



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    Quote Originally Posted by usabaker View Post
    I think they have changed the labeling. When I was looking for the "Collector" I found this "new" Breakfree on their website "BREAK FREE® MIL-SPEC CLP™" I didn't know there was a difference .. I ordered two 4oz bottles to check it out.


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    I will be interested in your opinion on it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Singer B View Post
    I will be interested in your opinion on it.
    I never noticed that the MIL SPEC number was removed from the Break Free bottles. I checked the 4oz Squeeze and 12oz Aerosol that I have and it's not there; when was it removed I wonder. The current batch of Break Free I have was purchased in 2014. The stuff I used on my firearms when they were in storage was original the MIL-SPEC because it was the same bottles librated. Now I'm more curious than ever.
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    Quote Originally Posted by painter777 View Post
    My little handicapped buddy lives out in the country on a hilltop and has some Sketchy neighbors down the road. He is easily seen coming and going from his home. When I can lure him out for a fishing trip or Casino run I always pick him up, so his truck is there to look like he is home. When not needed I'd leave a couple of our work vans parked out there so he could move them around or take one in to town. Trying to fool the Meth Heads down the road on whether he was home or not. F'ing shame a Vietnam veteran has to live like that...

    We Deer and Turkeyicon hunt his place and over the years we now have a couple of county sheriff officers that come out also. They'll look in on his place when their on this side of the county now... a win win.

    Old Freezer
    We did nearly the same with a old upright freezer. Gutted the shelves inside but left the inner liners and insulation. Built in some racks and were able to stick with the factory lock on it after some reinforcement.
    He uses the Dehumidifier Canisters from Hornady with the Silica beads you recharge when the moisture indicators reach peak level.

    You can see the freezer cord plugged in off to the side. But the cord powers a light inside he can turn on when needed. It's in his basement which is damp and cold.
    If anyone looked in the basement all they'd see would be the furnace, dryer, washing machine, hot water tank, dehumidifier, and this old beat up freezer in the corner.

    It's worked so far as he's been broken in to twice in the last 6-7 years.
    Maybe works because: You can't see the forest for the trees
    And no one but him and I know about it...... Well except you guys now.
    But I'm not telling where that hill top is !
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    Im sorry for your buddy.
    I would suggest him to install this smart home security system, its cheap, reliable and fun cauz has Alexa in too, besides that tells you when some one brakes in has a video recorder, it can make daily sounds as some one laughing, dog sparking, vacum working. You can also add smart sensors to turn on lights, lamps TV, etc at any time he wish only with his cellphone from any where in the planet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by usabaker View Post
    I never noticed that the MIL SPEC number was removed from the Break Free bottles. I checked the 4oz Squeeze and 12oz Aerosol that I have and it's not there; when was it removed I wonder. The current batch of Break Free I have was purchased in 2014. The stuff I used on my firearms when they were in storage was original the MIL-SPEC because it was the same bottles librated. Now I'm more curious than ever.
    Says they recently rebranded the product, maybe that's when they dropped the mil-spec number on the label, I don't know but here is a screenshot of the vice president of the company safariland talking about it
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