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    Quote Originally Posted by Singer B View Post
    That is a great story. I also use BreakFree CLP for my firearms prior to putting them back in the safe. CLP also makes a special "Collector's" variant that is designed for long-term storage needs. It has a little thicker consistency and I use it on clients' guns that I know will not be used or serviced for a very long time by their owners.
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    Quote Originally Posted by usabaker View Post
    I never noticed that the MIL SPEC number was removed from the Break Free bottles. I checked the 4oz Squeeze and 12oz Aerosol that I have and it's not there; when was it removed I wonder. The current batch of Break Free I have was purchased in 2014. The stuff I used on my firearms when they were in storage was original the MIL-SPEC because it was the same bottles librated. Now I'm more curious than ever.
    I like CLP too, and use it quite a bit. I have a new bottle I haven't opened - probably bought it around the time they changed the name to Safariland. I did notice they dropped Military Spec #'s from the label. I worried a bit whether it would be as good, but still has information about the Teflon on the back. I always forget to shake the bottle before using, though. I have a bunch of others including "Corrosion-X" which was highly recommended 25-30 years ago.

    I'm surprised no one has mentioned "Frog Lube" - I helped a guy look "all over the place" for it at a huge Gun Show in Portland several years ago, and then he did't buy any! I think he was going to use it on his "Bushmaster." Seems like guys coming back from Iraq had recommend it to him.

    Pictures below are of the older and newer bottles of CLP. Also a picture of some old boxes that my brother and I figured we needed to shoot the ammo from, before it got any older. I'm pretty sure it was from the mid 50's or possibly early 60's. That picture should have gone in the recent thread where old ammo was discussed, but was busy with other stuff at the time. I'm pretty sure that ammo was bought at a gas station about a mile from where I live now. The owner's grandson now operates the station, but no longer has Sporting Goods like they did in the "Good Ol' Days!" - Bob


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    Quote Originally Posted by usabaker View Post
    I did not know about this, I'm sure I saw it but maybe ignored it? I found Break-Free, Model: CO-4 Collector which I assume is the one you wrote about. I'm ordering it. Thank you for the lead. In my shooting bag, I have a microfiber rag that I soaked in Breakfree CLP that I keep in a ziplock. I use this to wipe my firearm down after I come out of the field back to my SUV or before leaving the range. It works great especially when you have been operating in the morning dew and rain. To make the rag, I saturate the rag and twist out any excess. I let the rag sit in my garage through the day and overnight to let the solvents evaporate and then place it in the ziplock. It leaves a light coat of oil when you wipe the firearm down.
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    Quote Originally Posted by USGI View Post
    I like CLP too, and use it quite a bit. I have a new bottle I haven't opened - probably bought it around the time they changed the name to Safariland. I did notice they dropped Military Spec #'s from the label. I worried a bit whether it would be as good, but still has information about the Teflon on the back. I always forget to shake the bottle before using, though. I have a bunch of others including "Corrosion-X" which was highly recommended 25-30 years ago.

    I'm surprised no one has mentioned "Frog Lube" - I helped a guy look "all over the place" for it at a huge Gun Show in Portland several years ago, and then he did't buy any! I think he was going to use it on his "Bushmaster." Seems like guys coming back from Iraq had recommend it to him.

    Pictures below are of the older and newer bottles of CLP. Also a picture of some old boxes that my brother and I figured we needed to shoot the ammo from, before it got any older. I'm pretty sure it was from the mid 50's or possibly early 60's. That picture should have gone in the recent thread where old ammo was discussed, but was busy with other stuff at the time. I'm pretty sure that ammo was bought at a gas station about a mile from where I live now. The owner's grandson now operates the station, but no longer has Sporting Goods like they did in the "Good Ol' Days!" - Bob

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    Nice, which 30-30 do you have? I have an old Marlyn 1898 Special Smokeless Steel

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    Quote Originally Posted by USGI View Post
    I'm surprised no one has mentioned "Frog Lube"
    Frog Lube, Like SEAL 1 or most any of the so-called safe oils, uses bio-based oils that get putrid/rancid over time. Had a friend open a container of it that had been in his range bag for a while and Holy Smokes the smell was so bad you could taste it. First time I ever saw the stuff is when a friend asked me to show him how to field strip, clean, and lubricate his new 1911. He handed be a small jar of the paste. When I opened it and saw this green goop I asked what the heck it was. He told me the gun store recommend it to him when he bought the gun. I laughed walked to my garage and grabbed the Break Free. He uses Frog Lube still and seems to like it.

    My friend who owned a gun store gave me some Seal 1 to try, I was not impressed at all, it does smell nice though; Might use it someday to cover up a bad fart smell or something.
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    Quote Originally Posted by USGI View Post
    Frog Lube
    GIBOB,
    Just a couple days ago a friend was telling how great Frog Lube is. I'd heard of it but never tried it. He asked if I'd heard of CLP and I told him yes. He said CLP made Frog Lube.
    Well I guess last fall he and another guy tried a test using Frog Lube vs a light weight Mobil One Synthetic. They called it a draw after 200~ shots thru each AR as fast as they could shoot.
    I don't know how they determined what made it a draw, but later it reminded me of seeing Frog Lube tested on a Youtube video.
    I just searched and was able to find that same video. 300+ rounds rapid fire.

    Wanna watch it ?
    Watch for the shooters Tactical removal of the mags dust cover



    ETA: I should add this friend has a radio and outdoor tv show and gets a lot of free products to test.
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    Quote Originally Posted by painter777 View Post
    He said CLP made Frog Lube.
    Huh? CLP only means Cleaner Lubricant Preservative it a product, not a Company.

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    Quote Originally Posted by painter777 View Post
    Well I guess last fall he and another guy tried a test using Frog Lube vs a light weight Mobil One Synthetic.
    Well, not really sure what that video proves? For any of that testing to have results they would need to have the exact same equipment with the same specs and then look at the ware under a microscope to actually check any difference. Cycle time would have to be measured with high-speed tools as well.

    This other guy with just plan jane AR took it to meltdown at 440 rounds. So lube or not the AR's can just do sustained fire.

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    Quote Originally Posted by usabaker View Post
    Huh? CLP only means Cleaner Lubricant Preservative it a product, not a Company.
    He may have said what Company made the CLP, but he said 'They' also make Frog Lube.
    I don't much give a Sh!t. I get tired real quick of his constant jawing.

    As far as calling their shoot off a draw....
    Like I said.......

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    I don't know how they determined what made it a draw
    USABAKER: "Well, not really sure what that video proves? "

    The video proves nothing. I posted it because Bob mentioned Frog Lube and thought he might enjoy seeing it.

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    Wow six pages on oil! I love re-reading Hatcher's Notebook. 100 years ago, barrel rusting was a real thing and a guy from the Bureau of Mines figures it out. Frankford Arsenal has a good answer (today's Ed's Red) as does everybody else. The population of Sperm Whales was reduced to almost extinction due to gun lubrication and automatic transmissions. Nothing can beat a modern synthetic lubricant. Think about it. A gun fires a few hundred (pros add another 0) rounds per year but your car goes full out for 6,000 miles (or more) all day, every day for hundreds of thousands of miles (at least I do, cause I hate buying cars) before PMCS. You get home and the Gun TLC comes out, while that car sits in the driveway hoping Jiffy Lube is in it's future. My dad, a Marine and Navy Reservist shot everything from the M1, M1911, M14icon, AR15, M9, M2 50 cal, plus all the guns he owned and used as a Security Guard, Parole Officer, CCW and just plain fun, always used Hoppe's #9 and Hoppe's or Gunslick oil at home. Grease was what he sold as a teenager working for Standard Oil gas stations to rubes that would listen to his BS and get their cars worked on (50's cars probably did need to get worked on). Safes with Goldenrods and desiccants have little to fear. I have heard of stories of GI's taking their rifles into the shower using soap and hot water to clean them (hard on wood I imagine). Hey I'm as anal as the next guy but if I wipe my corrosive finger prints off the metal and take a couple of passes at the bore with some cleaner and oil if it' going to sit much, I'm good to go. If your happy I'm happy.

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