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    Gew 98 Scope?

    Hello gents - I've acquired this Germanicon telescope that I believe is military. I post here for two reasons. The first is to find a bit more information as to whether or not this is a military scope, and if so, when this would have been used and on which platform.

    The second is I see that this scope seems to be mated to a specific rifle. Maybe a quick forum search will bring the owner to this thread in years time. I'd happily part with it if it meant an original configuration would be possible for someone else.



    I paid $190 for this. I'm not sure where that sits deal wise but it was worth it to me. I removed the two lenses on end but stopped there. I am a watchmaker by trade and know when it's time to put the tools down. The optics are cloudy but the elevation works very well, threads are intact, and outside lenses very clear. The interior lenses are very cloudy and I was wondering if there's a non destructive way to go about cleaning these. I can see that this interior lens unscrews with some sort of long spanner but I'm not going to fashion one and give it a go. I'd much rather have someone who knows what they're doing have a look.

    Does that exist these days? I've heard the horror stories about Iron Sights. Anyone else around?

    Many thanks to you all.

    For search purposes. This is matched to GEWEHR NO 1511


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    Would this have been mounted to a claw mount? One of those very high types... The lenses that are cloudy may have just been glued together and have separated. Perhaps the solution for gluing them has gone grey. I've had a couple apart, two and three draw telescopes recently that had this and just cleaned and reassembled them and they showed clear. Not quite that easy but you understand.
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    Quote Originally Posted by browningautorifleicon View Post
    Would this have been mounted to a claw mount? One of those very high types... The lenses that are cloudy may have just been glued together and have separated. Perhaps the solution for gluing them has gone grey. I've had a couple apart, two and three draw telescopes recently that had this and just cleaned and reassembled them and they showed clear. Not quite that easy but you understand.
    Thanks for your response, Jim. Here's photos of a comparable (identical it seems) scope with the claw mounts intact. Looks like the one in my possession had them removed at some point. I guess that would explain what looks like residual solder on the tube? It'd be great to find an appropriate set to reinstall. The ebay listing for the scope below ($1400!) makes reference to its military "sniper" provenance but I'm weary of taking the word of an ebay seller.

    There seems to be good discussion out there amongst vintage spotting scope enthusiasts concerning disassembly and cleaning. Most seem to think its a feasible task.

    Jim, do you remove the glue solution and replace it with something similar when cleaning and reassembling?


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    Quote Originally Posted by thrawnformbi View Post
    do you remove the glue solution
    There's a thread here somewhere in which Peter Laidlericon and others discuss the repair of #32 rifle optics...and yes they used a glue of some type. When I stripped the two and three draw telescopes, the lens set came out in a cartridge of two together bundled together in a brass sleeve. I uncrimped it and slid them out, cleaned the lenses with acetone to remove all residue and after a polish with soft cloth they were set together again back inside. Crimped and just the way they were before... Without glue I can't say what will happen over the next hundred years but these didn't have to withstand recoil. Not sure yours will either...
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    Here's a very helpful article written by a space telescope enthusiast. The information applies to any telescope that has seperated/cloudy lenses. Looks like the glue in question was canadian balsam sap dissolved in xylene. A more potent cocktail than the dilution used for microscope slides. Apparently the best modern replacement is something called Nordland 61 - although most enthusiasts recommend not using it as its TOO good at its job and allows zero room for error.

    Anyway, here's some more reading in case anyone else wants to give this a go. I think I'll give this a go and will report back.

    http://jimshomeplanet.com/lensglue.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by thrawnformbi View Post
    I think I'll give this a go and will report back.
    Maybe a step by step picture session...?
    Regards, Jim

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    Quote Originally Posted by browningautorifleicon View Post
    Maybe a step by step picture session...?
    Yes will do.

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    I have the weapon platform for the scope. It a 1942 Mauser sniper. I don’t have the scope nor upper section of mount. The mount is called a low turret type. Ending S/N 62. I might be interested.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rockandroll View Post
    I have the weapon platform for the scope. It a 1942 Mauser sniper. I don’t have the scope nor upper section of mount. The mount is called a low turret type. Ending S/N 62. I might be interested.
    The scope the OP posted is WW1, litterally not compatible with your turret mount system.

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    I think this scope is a ww1 era original sniper scope for gew 98
    Ian from forgotten weapons have uploaded a YouTube video
    About a ww1 gew 98 sniper this week
    Check it out.
    This scope is not correct to a ww2 k98k sniper.

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