+ Reply to Thread
Page 1 of 2 1 2 LastLast
Results 1 to 10 of 12

Thread: SMLE No1 MkV

Click here to increase the font size Click here to reduce the font size
  1. #1
    Contributing Member
    Buccaneer's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2011
    Last On
    08-03-2022 @ 02:27 PM
    Location
    Cardiff Wales UK
    Posts
    449
    Real Name
    Paul Ellis
    Local Date
    08-09-2022
    Local Time
    10:52 AM

    SMLE No1 MkV

    Although not really a Troop Trials rifle as some 20,000 were made between 1922 & 1924 it never saw general use in the Britishicon Army. This particular example is from the later production being made in 1924, considering it is now 97 years old it is in pretty good condition. I have done nothing to it other than giving it a good clean, the knocks and dings are all part of its history.
    Unlike the No1 MkVI it still looks like a SMLE but with the addition of the action mounted rear sight and the additional outer band to the rear of the nose cap, with no barrel mounted rear sight it also exhibits a full length rear hand guard.
    The safety is special to this model and is marked with a "V". The rear sight can be held at 45 or 90 degrees by the spring operated ball held in the receiver but I have no idea why it needed to be held in the 45 degree position, any answers to that one??
    The rifle is all matching and I have tried to show all of the relevant dates, numbers and marks, the butt disc is unmarked on the outside but the underside is marked with a broad arrow and an inspection stamp.
    Information
    Warning: This is a relatively older thread
    This discussion is older than 360 days. Some information contained in it may no longer be current.

  2. The Following 9 Members Say Thank You to Buccaneer For This Useful Post:


  3. # ADS
    Friends and Sponsors
    Join Date
    October 2006
    Location
    Milsurps.Com
    Posts
    All Threads
    A Collector's View - The SMLE Short Magazine Lee Enfield 1903-1989. It is 300 8.5x11 inch pages with 1,000+ photo’s, most in color, and each book is serial-numbered.  Covering the SMLE from 1903 to the end of production in India in 1989 it looks at how each model differs and manufacturer differences from a collecting point of view along with the major accessories that could be attached to the rifle. For the record this is not a moneymaker, I hope just to break even, eventually, at $80/book plus shipping.  In the USA shipping is $5.00 for media mail.  I will accept PayPal, Zelle, MO and good old checks (and cash if you want to stop by for a tour!).  CLICK BANNER to send me a PM for International pricing and shipping. Manufacturer of various vintage rifle scopes for the 1903 such as our M73G4 (reproduction of the Weaver 330C) and Malcolm 8X Gen II (Unertl reproduction). Several of our scopes are used in the CMP Vintage Sniper competition on top of 1903 rifles. Brian Dick ... BDL Ltd. - Specializing in British and Commonwealth weapons Chuck in Denver ... Buy-Sell-Trade .. Guns, Cars Motorcycles Your source for the finest in High Power Competition Gear. Here at T-bones Shipwrighting we specialise in vintage service rifle: re-barrelling, bedding, repairs, modifications and accurizing. We also provide importation services for firearms, parts and weapons, for both private or commercial businesses.
     

  4. #2
    Legacy Member capt14k's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2015
    Last On
    07-06-2022 @ 08:46 PM
    Location
    United States
    Posts
    246
    Local Date
    08-09-2022
    Local Time
    05:52 AM
    That is a nice example. I am still looking for one.


  5. Avoid Ads - Become a Contributing Member - Click HERE
  6. #3
    Advisory Panel browningautorifle's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2008
    Last On
    Yesterday @ 11:08 PM
    Location
    Victoria BC
    Posts
    27,571
    Real Name
    Jim
    Local Date
    08-09-2022
    Local Time
    02:52 AM
    Very nice rifle, beautifully kept. You'd have to ask the designer why the angle on the rear sight, they'd have had a very good reason...in their mind.
    Regards, Jim

  7. #4
    Legacy Member hayboy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2014
    Last On
    Yesterday @ 12:15 PM
    Location
    West Midlands, UK
    Posts
    48
    Local Date
    08-09-2022
    Local Time
    09:52 AM
    Hi all, throwing my two pennorth into this - isn't the 45 degree angle setting to allow the sight to be tilted forward to better read the range markings on the side when changing elevation?
    The number 4 and P14 sights both do the same I think.

    Jon

  8. #5
    Legacy Member BigBadDog's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2019
    Last On
    @
    Location
    NL
    Posts
    47
    Local Date
    08-09-2022
    Local Time
    10:52 AM
    Mk V surely?

    L of C SS A1635 - A1690, 31st May 1926. Skennertonicon P191.

    A Beaut anyway.

  9. #6
    Legacy Member husk's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2008
    Last On
    Yesterday @ 05:07 PM
    Location
    USA
    Posts
    154
    Local Date
    08-09-2022
    Local Time
    05:52 AM
    That’s a very nice MkV! The pin holding the rear sight to the body is not a screw and should be tapped out for removal or it will end up damaged as seen here.

  10. #7
    Advisory Panel Surpmil's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2008
    Last On
    @
    Location
    West side
    Posts
    4,120
    Local Date
    08-09-2022
    Local Time
    02:52 AM
    Given the aperture sights and higher quality peace time production, you have to wonder why these weren't issued for sniper or marksman use, particularly early WWII. They have a reputation for high accuracy.
    “There are invisible rulers who control the destinies of millions. It is not generally realized to what extent the words and actions of our most influential public men are dictated by shrewd persons operating behind the scenes.”

    Edward Bernays, 1928

    Much changes, much remains the same.

  11. #8
    Legacy Member Bruce_in_Oz's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2008
    Last On
    Today @ 03:13 AM
    Location
    Brisbane
    Posts
    2,146
    Local Date
    08-09-2022
    Local Time
    07:52 PM
    Many of them seem to have been shipped to India.

    An interesting twist is that post WW2, Indian troops, apparently many toting MK V rifles, went to "Frenchicon Indo-China" to deal with the surrender / repatriation of thousands of Japaneseicon troops. Some of these Mk Vs seem to have been "mislaid" and ended up in the hands of Ho Chi Minh's 'Viet Minh" troops. There are a few (probably posed") photos of them "in the wild" in those parts, in the hands of suitably grim-looking Viets. Probably used for drill and propaganda purposes because of the limited availability of .303 ammo and appropriate spare parts, until they fell to bits and were scrapped

  12. #9
    Legacy Member Alan de Enfield's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2007
    Last On
    Today @ 03:29 AM
    Location
    Y Felinheli, Gogledd Cymru
    Posts
    2,305
    Real Name
    Alan De Enfield
    Local Date
    08-09-2022
    Local Time
    10:52 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by Bruce_in_Oz View Post
    Many of them seem to have been shipped to India.

    An interesting twist is that post WW2, Indian troops, apparently many toting MK V rifles, went to "Frenchicon Indo-China" to deal with the surrender / repatriation of thousands of Japaneseicon troops. Some of these Mk Vs seem to have been "mislaid" and ended up in the hands of Ho Chi Minh's 'Viet Minh" troops. There are a few (probably posed") photos of them "in the wild" in those parts, in the hands of suitably grim-looking Viets. Probably used for drill and propaganda purposes because of the limited availability of .303 ammo and appropriate spare parts, until they fell to bits and were scrapped


    Maybe the best known picture :
    Mine are not the best, but they are not too bad. I can think of lots of Enfields I'd rather have but instead of constantly striving for more, sometimes it's good to be satisfied with what one has...

  13. Thank You to Alan de Enfield For This Useful Post:


  14. #10
    Advisory Panel Surpmil's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2008
    Last On
    @
    Location
    West side
    Posts
    4,120
    Local Date
    08-09-2022
    Local Time
    02:52 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by Bruce_in_Oz View Post
    Many of them seem to have been shipped to India.

    An interesting twist is that post WW2, Indian troops, apparently many toting MK V rifles, went to "Frenchicon Indo-China" to deal with the surrender / repatriation of thousands of Japaneseicon troops. Some of these Mk Vs seem to have been "mislaid" and ended up in the hands of Ho Chi Minh's 'Viet Minh" troops. There are a few (probably posed") photos of them "in the wild" in those parts, in the hands of suitably grim-looking Viets. Probably used for drill and propaganda purposes because of the limited availability of .303 ammo and appropriate spare parts, until they fell to bits and were scrapped
    There was probably plenty of Japanese-made .303 around, not to mention the vast stocks captured in 1941 and probably little used by the Japanese. The battlefields would have been gleaned by the locals too whenever possible as there has surely been a black market in arms and ammo there for centuries. They would have been quick to pilfer after Japan folded up as well.
    “There are invisible rulers who control the destinies of millions. It is not generally realized to what extent the words and actions of our most influential public men are dictated by shrewd persons operating behind the scenes.”

    Edward Bernays, 1928

    Much changes, much remains the same.

+ Reply to Thread
Page 1 of 2 1 2 LastLast

Similar Threads

  1. SMLE trigger guard bushing substitute ..or.. More attempts to not buy old SMLE stock
    By DeeBee in forum The Lee Enfield Knowledge Library Collectors Forum
    Replies: 7
    Last Post: 11-11-2019, 03:51 AM
  2. Just for fun - SMLE
    By Steve H. in N.Y. in forum Commercial Auction and Sale "Gossip"
    Replies: 4
    Last Post: 03-31-2017, 08:09 AM
  3. SMLE Sht .22 IV
    By bigduke6 in forum The Lee Enfield Knowledge Library Collectors Forum
    Replies: 6
    Last Post: 02-17-2010, 06:43 PM
  4. Smle #3
    By bradtx in forum The Lee Enfield Knowledge Library Collectors Forum
    Replies: 1
    Last Post: 07-29-2009, 09:59 PM

Tags for this Thread

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts