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    Those of us who know how to spot one that is still as built from the factory are happy that others can't tell the difference. There are a bunch out there.



    There is no excuse for Midway's false statement. It might apply to 25 Winchesters as an exception, but not in the slightest for the bulk of those Carbines. They aren't even corrected.
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    Wow! that's neat! original config or not, I'm tempted to buy one. Wonder if Midway will still give me my discount on these.
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    [QUOTE=tenOC;500322]Those of us who know how to spot one that is still as built from the factory are happy that others can't tell the difference. There are a bunch out there."
    Absolutely correct and most are 1944-45 built carbines. When you spot a type 2 band, you are getting warm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tenOC View Post
    This discussion is new to this site but not the others.
    Actually we've been talking about them here for nearly a month. The mods moved the thread, so it kinda' got hidden. - Bob

    https://www.milsurps.com/showthread.php?t=74117&page=1
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    Quote Originally Posted by tenOC View Post
    In 20 years, if we're still allowed t have these, there will be plenty of Carbines sold out of long time collections in original config of people in my age bracket.

    In 20 years I will be 88 and probably in a nursing home so I don't think I can wait for those collections to come on the market

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    Quote Originally Posted by tenOC View Post
    Those of us who know how to spot one that is still as built from the factory are happy that others can't tell the difference. There are a bunch out there
    What makes me happy is to hear from someone with such passion and knowledge about a WW-2 carbine in it's org. configuration [maybe a little too much Oak Island ?] .

    Could you please post a pic. of one of yours as built from the factory for those of us who can't tell the difference, Thanks.
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    Thanks for the lead

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    You don't have to wait 20 years. They're on GB every month. In 20 years people in my demographic will be liquidating or dead, so there will be nice Carbines available then too.

    lboos, most experienced Carbine people have several original as manufactured Carbines. Bunches have just had the stock swapped. I never really focused on acquiring them and have around 7. Two came from one collector. Both are unique examples. More Carbines have had just the stock changed. One 100% orig came off GB 2 years ago, an early S'G' for $729 buy it now. carwashchris and deldriver saw that auction afterwards and one has seen the Carbine in person. How do you buy a Carbine worth 2500 in parts for $729 off of a national website? You happen to look at the right time. Then you almost screw it up from excitement by hitting the BID NOW button instead of the BUY IT NOW one. The same week a friend bought 2 off of another auction, an orig 7 mil Winchester someone modded parts on and a rare serial NPM that the stock was swapped on. He almost parted it out because a Riesch says a 4 mil NPM isn't supposed to have a dogleg and type I band.

    Others posting in these very Midway topic threads have pics of one or some of theirs in this forum.

    3) Newer people won't notice but a lot of very experienced people don't post here any
    more and some don't even post on other forums. Maybe it's because newer people try to dispute what they've tried to teach them? Some got tired of reteaching frequent posters too. Seems the exodus accelerated the past 2 years.

    Quote Originally Posted by USGI View Post
    Actually we've been talking about them here for nearly a month. The mods moved the thread, so it kinda' got hidden. - Bob
    I posted in that thread that died on 5-19. The info I posted about Midway BSing the description again beginning in June is still being discussed on CCC and Gunboards last week.

    Midway is also claiming they were never REFURBISHED. The term "rebuilt" was discussed in that thread. Refurbished is replacing rear sights, rotary safeties and barrel bands. Midway Carbines are refurbs. Late Winchesters and Inlands might not be, but that will be the mnor exception. The barrel assemblies have a higher likelihood to be original..............and they're import marked barrels.
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    Why is Oak Island anything on TV, anyway?

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveHH View Post
    Absolutely correct and most are 1944-45 built carbines. When you spot a type 2 band, you are getting warm.
    One of the nicest Carbines I've seen in person was a very late Inland original at a show. Almost 2 years ago the 1900 he wanted wasn't comfortable, but it's still a memorable one. Today one of the RTI or Midway buyers would opt for it quickly.
    There's a way to better your odds with these Midway Carbines, but I'm not talking.
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    I can't seem to find condition descriptions. Are they using the NRA surplus grading scale?

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