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    T99 serial number identification request

    Can someone help identify this T99. It has a Nagoya marking of a big circle over a small circle. The serial number is 80590 and the Series looks like a lower case "y" on the top left corner of a box. It is not a later model T99 because the aerial sights are intact and there is a dust cover. Would this series rifle take the bayonet with a quill or straight bayonet? Thanks for your help

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    Sounds like a series 1 . The earlier type bayonet would be more correct for the time frame . But Bayonets were made by many other companies and were not matched to a rifle . So a rifle could have been stored somewhere then issued later for action and the soldier had a later bayonet .

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    Quote Originally Posted by BJung View Post
    Can someone help identify this T99. It has a Nagoya marking of a big circle over a small circle. The serial number is 80590 and the Series looks like a lower case "y" on the top left corner of a box. It is not a later model T99 because the aerial sights are intact and there is a dust cover. Would this series rifle take the bayonet with a quill or straight bayonet? Thanks for your help
    You should entertain us with pictures of your rifle…everyone likes pictures!

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    My pictures

    Does anyone have a link that will help me determine about what year this T99 was manufactured? Attached are two photos of the receiver and my last photo of three test loads. I am currently trying to tighten this group up so I can try 600yard plus shots
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    Based on your pictures, there is no series stamp left of the serial number. This makes this a no series Nagoya…before they moved to series 1. This rifle would’ve been made in 1940.

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    As for accuracy, these have metford style rifling and prefer flat based bullets. Also, check the muzzle crown…sometime these took a beating.

    Just curious, does this rifle have the large loop rear sling swivel?

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    J-Rod, you know more than I do for sure. Thanks for your help. How many rifles were made per year in the Nagoya factory? Can one estimate where it might have been shipped to?

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    Combat rifles weren't really built for pinpoint accuracy at long distances. Then also, the correct bullet for your rifle might close up the groups.

    At what distance did you shoot the group?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BJung View Post
    J-Rod, you know more than I do for sure. Thanks for your help. How many rifles were made per year in the Nagoya factory? Can one estimate where it might have been shipped to?
    That’s a difficult answer as Japaneseicon didn’t keep detailed records like other countries. Add that most records were lost during firebombing. Nagoya made a little more than 1.1 million type 99 rifles. It was adopted in 1939 but production didn’t really start until 1940, ending in 1945. Without bringback paperwork or the vet’s service record who brought it back, it’s hard to tell. There is a greater chance of a mum’d rifle coming from an island campaign and scrubbed mums from the Philippines or Japan.

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    My first Hi-Power rifle was a sporterized and scoped Lee Enfield and with handloads I could print 3/4" groups at 100yds with it from a bench. I shot 4 rounds at the target at the distance written on the target. Two had a OAL of 3.232" (magazine box internal length) and 3.100". I didn't watch each print. Three are shown in the photo. One is below the two that grouped closed together. I resized Lake City 30-06 brass, trimmed, fireformed, separated cases by weight, and expanded neck sized case for a uniform neck tension. I have a new test lot ready to load. I separated cases this time by weight/volume and will again neck size and then expand turned necks there will be a consistent neck tension. I also grouped and measured bullets (ogive to base + weight) for consistency. For those that might be interested, I am using 45.3gr R15 with a MV of 2408fps. If anyone reading this post can do a favor for me if they happeMy n to be shooting their T99, can you fire one small test group by resting your head to the side of your benched rifle and line up the target to the rifle aperture and front sights. Then, fold your target and draw a vertical line through the target. At 100 yards, I will raise my head above the aperture hood and line up the front sight, then lower my head to keep the front sight on that vertical hold. I center the target to the aperture. I find the biggest circle I can find. At 300 yards, I now use a large garbage can lid traced onto a brightly colored cardstock and a triangle under it. That red paper plate was very hard to see and center at 300 yards. Thanks to anyone who is shooting their T99 rifle and willing to compare techniques.

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    Thanks for the information. The person who sold this rifle told me that it was take from a battlefield on one of the islands. Yes, the mum is intact

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