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    Let us know the results 30Three you may be surprised at retained memory once you un-holster it and let drive.

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    I want to instinctively know what condition the weapon is in by a glance or instinctive feel. This should be natural, with no room for misinterpretation or misunderstanding.
    Exactly why I like wheel guns yes a proud primer can stop them but that's less of a chance than a stove pipe on a 1911 my Ruger with a full cylinder of 240 grainers and 6 1/2" brl had a nice weight to it but the recoil was still lively.

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    There is something to be said for revolvers; they have their uses. But. Armed forces all over the world don't use revolvers as a sidearm. None. Should tell you something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daan Kemp View Post
    But. Armed forces all over the world don't use revolvers as a sidearm. None. Should tell you something.
    it's been the same argument for over a century now...putting more bullets downrange in the same space of time is a key to victory. There have been studies on this. It's a core reason for switching to the m9, m16 etc.

    But...I'll keep my S&W model 60 tucked in my shorts pocket on a hot summer day over any of the other options.

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    A question for the military guy's!
    Was the idea of "double tap" shooting used prior to introduction of the 9mm pistol or earlier with the older .45ACP pistols?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 30Three View Post
    "double tap"
    Has always been used with self loading rifles to ensure a hit on target or perhaps the probability of two close together. We taught it more with instinctive shooting where sights were overlooked and both eyes kept open to observe strike. Then you set up a rhythm of double shots to increase hit probability. Works very well with sub guns like Thompson, Sten, Sterling and such as it's mainly CQB.... I was doing it in Australiaicon with an early M16icon in CQB and a CSM didn't like it, we were supposed to aim. I was hitting all the targets though, he didn't mention that part...
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    Double tap isn't military. Originated with IPSC and self defence with handguns. Equates to "stopping power", where the relative stopping power of calibres were compared, with the conclusion that you should fire two shots if you want to stop an assailant. One shot is good by two are much better, without wasting ammo.

    Spilled over from the sport I presume.

    In contrast to military, where rifles, space and distance from the enemy are the norm. Stopping an assailant in your home isn't a military issue. You just use more machine guns and mortars and artillery, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daan Kemp View Post
    ne shot is good by two are much better, without wasting ammo.
    someone once said to me "first shot to stop what they are doing, second one to make sure they can't get up and do it again."

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    Sounds like something Jeff Cooper would have said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daan Kemp View Post
    Double tap isn't military.
    Yep, the military followed a sport...for sure.

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    distance from the enemy are the norm
    Now you know that isn't always true.
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    For the past 40+ years, California law enforcement has utilized and trained the strategy of "two to the body, one to the head." This was in response to criminals being able to obtain or create their own body armor.

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