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    I was wondering if I would get a reply as to what happened and why if I messaged him before the pitchforks and torches came out.
    Or messaging him to at least tell the buyers of completed listings what they really got.
    (Even though that tends to offend sellers just a wee bit.)

    I also conjectured it could have been an estate or anti-gun police departments.
    Its too bad that there could not have been a lawsuit or legal process or some kind of exception to keep these at least from being cut up above all.
    That No 3 Mk I (T) A was on about the level of that case of that StG 44 that was saved from the smelter by the police and much rarer by the production numbers and with much less stigma.

    Not denying there is a endemic problem of breaking up rifles, but:
    Specifically in this one case there is no way the separated parts would bring more than the complete $10,000 to $20,000 rifle. Especially since no one in these listings apparently knew what they were buying.
    And, I already ran the numbers: He sold a $2000.00-$10,000.00 rifle for about $885.88 and a $10,000 to $20,000 rifle (the No 3 Mk I* (T) A) for about $783.43!

    Not a real great business deal there just based on the intrinsic value of the rifles alone and completely disregarding the true historical significance of these items.
    I don't know if that makes it feel better or worse for whoever tried to profit by this.

    At the very least if the firearms had to be chopped he could have sold the parts together for those with rare projects out there instead of parting them out to uninformed buyers.


    Wonder if he threw the scopes away as old outdated garbage nobody would want?
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    Originally Posted by Promo
    He torch cut the receiver and sold the front receiver half among the barrel with the front base still installed too.
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    I guess it's so he doesn't have to deal with any formalities. Shows he isn't a gun guy.
    He sold the front No 4 Mk I (T) pad with the chopped receiver as well.

    I have seen these gunbusters type sellers before.
    Not real motivational to the responsible firearms owners out there to report the theft of a firearm to the police if the stolen property gets destroyed after it is recovered anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AD-4NA View Post
    I was wondering if I would get a reply as to what happened and why if I messaged him before the pitchforks and torches came out. Or messaging him to at least tell the buyers of completed listings what they really got. (Even though that tends to offend sellers just a wee bit.)
    No, will you message him and let us know? I really wonder too..

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    I've seen the cut-up remains of such activities in a scrap yard locally: little bits of antique pocket pistols after a thick cutting disc was run through them. Nothing salvageable except screws basically and I didn't bother!

    This guy might have bought the chopped up remains from some scrap yard or his local P.D./gov. surplus auction.

    His past sales don't show a pattern of such activities AFAIK, so either he's just started to buy such stuff, or he just stumbled on these parts as a one-time deal.

    If he was in on the chopping up, you'd expect him to have the scope and if he had the scope you'd expect him to 1. sell it on eBay and 2. realize what the stock was for and list it appropriately.

    Possibly some collector was unwise enough to die suddenly without leaving information for his heirs as to the values of what he had, or he died intestate or without heirs and local authorities did the chop.

    If it was angry and resentful heirs destroying __________'s property out of spite, as they sometimes do, I doubt they would have bothered to take the stock off the action!
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    Looked again, for future reference (if the original scope mount to this rifle might one day turn up), the rifle serial was W238611. Did anyone ever record this serial before?

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