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    JFK fulfilling his term as the US president he could have been a close rival to Roosevelts popularity during his term in WWII both these men were a sad loss
    Maybe not to the Cuban refugee force that tried to invade Cuba with the promise of US air support... at the last minute, JFK refused to send it, and they were all killed or captured. BTW, many were armed with Johnson rifles supplied by Sam Cummings to the CIA.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Womack View Post
    Does anyone remember the M-16 chamber and ammo debacles (3) initiated by Robert McNamara?

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    I always thought this was the reason the M16icon got such a bad reputation in the beginning for malfunctions because the ammo was changed and not right in the beginning. Am I correct?
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    Does anyone remember the M-16 chamber and ammo debacles (3) initiated by Robert McNamara?

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    The Saga of the M16icon by Dick Culvericon

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    Quote Originally Posted by jond41403 View Post
    I always thought this was the reason the M16icon got such a bad reputation in the beginning for malfunctions because the ammo was changed and not right in the beginning. Am I correct?
    Short version:

    There were three big errors related to attempts to cut costs:

    1. The M16 was designed to use a new extruded IMR powder. The rifle's timing was entirely based upon it. McNamara's bunch said, "We've got plenty of older powder sitting around. Use it!" The result was higher port pressures that led to faster expansion down the gas tube. The net result was that the bolt began to travel back while the spent casing was still obdurated, that is, swollen to seal within the chamber. Either the extractor would jump the rim of the case or tear it off, leaving the case wedged in the chamber, turning the rifle into a single shot weapon until each case was driven from the chamber.

    2. The chamber was intended to be chrome-lined but that was cut as well, making friction higher and extraction tougher. After the powder problem was discovered it still had problems with extraction. Then this problem was discovered and the Army decided to go ahead and spring for chrome plating. However, they didn't bother to change the chamber spec to have it widened to allow the extra width chrome plating would add. Any benefit of plating was lost for a good while until this goof was figured out.

    3. That new extruded IMR powder was supposed to be used was a pretty clean burning powder. So, soldiers were officially taught that this wonder weapon didn't need to be cleaned due to its wonder weapon status. That was unfortunate in that the M16 was the first U.S. Army weapon that "pooped where it fed," ie' the exhaust propellant gasses were vented right into the works of the weapon. Between not being cleaned and the use of regular, dirty ball powder, the M16 was the dirtiest weapon on the books at adoption.

    And I haven't discussed light primers and heavy firing pins yet.

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    JFK's AR-15 rifles

    Note the early duckbill shaped flash suppressor in the JFK photo, difficult to notice if the plastic is green color, duckbill lasted into the Colt 601

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Womack View Post
    Does anyone remember the M-16 chamber and ammo debacles (3) initiated by Robert McNamara?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RCS View Post
    Note the early duckbill shaped flash suppressor in the JFK photo, difficult to notice if the plastic is green color, duckbill lasted into the Colt 601Attachment 129051Attachment 129052
    Helpful to break the wire around bales of C-rations.

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