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    Quote Originally Posted by USGI View Post
    Thanks! I guess the reason I wasn't "going along" with that idea is that I've not seen much evidence of that with Inlands that I've owned, or in data from Carbine related websites. I have most of the books, but even those are 10 or more years old now - I never did have the CC Club newsletters, though. Dan Pinto (and Bill Moore ) wrote a good article in 2019 on some Inland "oddities" that's available over on the CC Club Forum.

    Inland Mis-stamped Serial Numbers - The Carbine Collector's Club

    I've always had the idea that Inland was turning out Carbines at such a rate in those days that barrels were being used nearly as fast as they were being produced. I sure wish I had started this hobby when I was young enough to remember more details! That carbine looks really nice - just noticed what appears to be a Type 5 slide on it, too. Now, I can't wait for more pictures. - Bob
    That's because they were. I know some collectors get hung up on FIFO, but it doesn't explain every anomaly seen by today's collectors. Some guys use FIFO to justify their carbines, in this case, to be original even though it's no more than a leap of faith to think that way. If you really want to know if that barrel is original to that Inland, take the stock off and pull the slide back, then look for a slightly bare area just in front of the gas cylinder. Inland finished their carbines as a unit, so in the case of barrels, they would pull the barrel band all the way back to the gas cylinder and apply finish, this would leave a bare area (maybe a shadow is a better word) just forward of the cylinder. How wide is you bare spot or shadow if you will-that will be the answer to an original barrel on this Inland.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaveHH View Post
    The top HI handguard is new and yet you only see about half of the front sight when aiming.
    Back when we had no information about this stuff we wondered how you were supposed to use something with wood that high. At the time it seemed wrong and we had no idea it was original.
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    UPDATE: There was an issue with my purchase of the carbine. It was one of four from the estate. One was a mixmaster Winchester which went to a friend of the family. Another was the Inland with the notch sight, also going to a friend of the family. The one I was buying, and a mixmaster Inland. We found out that the one I was buying was promised to a family member. The available Inland rebuild was a really clean, ser# 506XXX 6 digit Inland, late/post war rebuild with a barrel dated 3-43. Barrel has less than a 1 ME and beautiful crisp rifling. Nice pot belly stock, Type 3 rear sight and barrel band. I took it (and partial refund) instead so the family member can have his piece of family history. No sour grapes, here. Maybe next time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by imarangemaster View Post
    506XXX 6 digit Inland
    Pics anyway when you get it. Maybe a full expose...
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    Actually a 7-43 Inland barrel, which seems about right based on the master list on US Carbine 30 Caliber M1icon.. Any input???? It has a later type V slide, flat bolt, M2 mag catch, and a potbelly stock that seems to just have the original linseed oilicon coating that is soaked in and dry. The stock has definitely NOT been sanded. The barreled action hangs in the stock with about 1/8" clearance between barrel and channel at front. It has a Winchester trigger housing and a REALLY sweet trigger pull.
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    Did you notice if that stock was an SA or an Inland? - Bob

    I have (3) 6 digit Inlands:

    408K 4-43
    476K (undated)
    755K 7-43
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    Quote Originally Posted by imarangemaster View Post
    a REALLY sweet trigger pull.
    I'll bet that's from lots of range and combat time...lots of rounds.
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    From the Carbine master list: Probably the original barrel

    479,xxx. 6-43,
    504,2XX. 7-43 (Mine)
    507,xxx. 7-43,
    572,xxx 8-43

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    Pics: EDITED: SA stamp on stock by barrel channel Handguard is IO IIRC.

























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    The stock really looks like it just has the original linseed oilicon treatment. Would this rebuild have been done in 1945 (after Germanyicon surrendered) when they were upgrading carbines to send to the Pacific for the invasion of Japanicon? Or maybe after the war?

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