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1910 Sandersen Hooked Quillion Bayonet - Looking for help with authenticating
Hi Guys,
Picked up my first 1907 hooked quillon bayonet earlier this month and looking for information and opinions. Main questions are...
What are the significance/issue location denoted by the serial number on the guard? (I haven't seen this font before on a hookie)
Regarding the condition, what is the best option for conservation?
Value? (I paid $1000 AUD for it so just checking if I got ripped off
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Thanks for your help guys, your expertise is always greatly appreciated!
Best Regards,
Sam.
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Looks good to me. The serial number is just that, a tracking number. Issue would be recorded to an individual, maybe numbered to his rifle. I don't think you were ripped.
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Conservation means first and foremost "do no damage."
No cleaning or de-rusting would be the best choice (I.M.H.O.)
If you want to handle it or look at it just lightly oil it with a thin mineral oil. (NOT "spawn of satan" WD40!)
Long-term storage then do what the military did, cosmoline
or wax-based coating. (Inspected occasionally.)
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Hi ColinA And browningautorifle
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Thanks for your info and advice!
Any idea on the location of issue based off the font of serial number on guard? I was thinking SA or maybe NZ
but not sure.
Re the conservation, I have seen far to many "reset" which is always a shame. My plan was to oil with some CRC long life, nothing too drastic such as boil and card.
Best Regards,
Sam.
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I see it has a "Sold out of service" marking...odd for me to see that. By the way, most any oil applied will dry after time and turn to a varnish type finish. I had a 1928 Thompson that had a nickel bolt, after a time of oil and no use the bolt looked yellow. Be aware. Easy to remove once it's seen though.
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Originally Posted by
ColinA
Conservation means first and foremost "do no damage."
No cleaning or de-rusting would be the best choice (I.M.H.O.)
If you want to handle it or look at it just lightly oil it with a thin mineral oil. (NOT "spawn of satan" WD40!)
Long-term storage then do what the military did,
cosmoline
or wax-based coating. (Inspected occasionally.)
The military instruction for bayonet preservation :
The protective covering (HS5773) was a Lanolin / Coal tar mixture as detailed below :
Mine are not the best, but they are not too bad. I can think of lots of Enfields I'd rather have but instead of constantly striving for more, sometimes it's good to be satisfied with what one has...
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Renaissance Wax is an excellent preservative coating for edged weapons. Developed for the British
Museum for items in their collections. I live on the very humid Florida Gulf Coast where the average relative humidity is above 70%. My bayonets live in a non-air conditioned garage. Many have been there for 30+ years and are nicely rust free with a single application of Ren Wax. I rub some wax into a flannel 2" x 2" patch and use that as an applicator. Wipe on, allow to air dry for 10 minutes or so then buff gently with a lint free cloth. An old, well washed Tee shirt is perfect. When properly buffed the metal will have a very smooth feel and a slight shine. If it feels at all sticky, buff a bit more. I also use it on the machined surfaces of my wood working equipment like the top of the table saw, soles and sides of hand planes etc. Firearms I don't expect to shoot often or at all get a coat. While it seems a bit pricey, a very small amount goes a long way. In 32 years I'm on my second 7 ounce jar.
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About the going rate for one in that cond I've seen Lithgow
ones at $4k and everything in between, my friend years ago lucked onto one for $400 Aud just before the prices went south.
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I was given a cast off that had come from a museum somewhere, still had the inventory number on it. It came as a gift for graduating a particularly hard military course. When it sold in the '90s, it went with the collection of bayonets for the #1 Mk3 I had at no particular premium. They weren't as valued then, it was ten years after they shot up...
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