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What's the consensus on the ID of this one? - Bob
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05-08-2023 01:38 AM
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GI Bob,
I'm leaning towards the WRA plate on the CCC chart, it seems to match up best row by row.
2nd guess would be the Inland/SG plate that btw I just realized is the same picture... If you look closely at this example at a scratch or dent you'll see it on the other example.
The U.S. Caliber .30 Carbine Buttplates
I always like to credit Jim Mock for his work on putting all this info together.
Charlie-Painter777
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After I saw your comment, I took awhile and searched old threads for discussions on these buttplates. I've got another buttplate on a Carbine I haven't had out in awhile, so plan to get it out for a picture later today. In the meantime, I want to see if Bubba-7 or Hercules Powder may want to add a comment.
Here's the general Google Search I just used, followed by a couple links to specific threads I found. - Bob
https://www.google.com/search?q=Mils...t=gws-wiz#ip=1
https://www.milsurps.com/showthread.php?t=52127&page=1
http://www.milsurps.com/showthread.php?t=42657
EDIT: Here's the picture of the 2nd buttplate on the left, followed by the one from post #11 above for comparison.
Last edited by USGI; 05-10-2023 at 09:42 PM.
Reason: Add Pictures
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The butt plate in post #11 is late Inland. You can tell by the gaps at 11 and 2 o'clock.
Jim Mock's butt plate list is the first time I have seen the three Winchester early, mid and late butt plates shown correctly. Early, dot splatter all around screw, mid, dot splatter only on bottom, and late, no splatter and like a late Inland.
And part of the confusion with his list of butt plates is because, it does not have the Inland early square pattern, which before everyone removed their original early square pattern butt plate from their original early Inland and replaced it with the diagonal pattern. CC NLs stated, the early Inland square pattern was more common.
Then Riesch only listed the diagonal pattern for early Inland. So everyone gets guess what happened then. Of course, you can remove the butt plate and see the indentations in the stock wood, if early Inland square or diagonal pattern was original to the stock.
Thirty years ago, been there, done that, myself. Newbies following Riesch have destroyed many, many original carbines.
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So GI Bob,
Just what are you up to?
Charlie-Painter777
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Busy looking at dots on buttplates right now.
- Bob
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