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    Loewe Chileno Model 1895: Help with odd markings

    I just got this 7x57 Chileno M1895 and notice an odd crossed cycle and Hammer mark in a few spots. I don’t recognize this marking. Any help is greatly appreciated. This rifle is great! First firing with hand loads at 100 yards, 5@ 1-7/8”.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KneverKnew View Post
    I just got this 7x57 Chileno M1895 and notice an odd crossed cycle and Hammer mark in a few spots. I don’t recognize this marking. Any help is greatly appreciated. This rifle is great! First firing with hand loads at 100 yards, 5@ 1-7/8”.
    Sorry, are you asking if that's a hammer and sickle stamp?

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    LOL! It’s pretty clear it’s a hammer and cycle stamp. I’m asking what does it represent? Proof mark? Acceptance mark? Etc…?

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    Sorry, I don't see a bicycle anywhere.

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    ? at this point I suppose it doesn’t really matter anymore. Thanks for the laugh.

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    There is info on these proof/acceptance marks in the standard reference, which is David Nielsen's "History of the Mauser Rifle in Chileicon." The theory that book espouses is that these were internal marks as part of Loewe's own quality control process, with individual parts being proofed by their makers to identify them before they continued along the process to the complete rifle. The left hand one is a crossed hammer and pick. Trigger marks are (top) a triangle enclosing a cycle* and (bottom) a diamond comprised of four smaller diamonds. The next one left-to-right is a circle with vertical and horizontal lines, and at far right, another triangle enclosing a cycle. All of the marks in the photos are well documented. It has been suggested that these were subcontractor marks for individual parts that would have been approved if they were delivered to Loewe according to spec. This is not verified, but in any case, this was apparently part of an internal process and not something the Chileans would have done when they accepted the finished rifles.

    *it's possible "circle" was meant and not "cycle" and that there is a typo in the book - I'm just reporting what the books says
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    Pick something else. I'd suggest what you see there is a typical square-headed (no joke) cross-peen hammer and a typical wide-faced planishing hammer.
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