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    Turkish 8mm pull down options

    I have several hundred Turkishicon 8 mm Mauser rounds that I plan on pulling down. The plan is to load the powder and bullet into new boxer, primed brass. My question is, isn’t the Turkish 8 mm supposed to be rather hot? I’m wondering if it would be a good idea to reduce the powder charge by a few percentage points. Any thoughts or recommendations with regard to my endeavor?



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    I second Steve's opinion. No worries about powder degradation, and with some testing, better potential accuracy.

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    I would use fresh powder. But see this:
    Many just down load to even measures aand same weight tips. There is much variation.
    Pulled Down Turk 8mm Ammo

    also see DOC some consider it a waste of time: Just up the spring in the old mauser for sure firing.
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    Here's another free 2 cents worth of opinion (isn't that an oxymoron?): I wouldn't risk damaging an expensive milsurp to save the price of a pound or two of powder. That's just me. I picked up a couple of hundred rounds of surplus 7.65 X 53 Argentineicon at a Flea Market for ten bucks and broke a bunch down. They had dates going all the way back to 1910 and some of the powder looked like it had spider webs holding the pellets together in clumps while in other cartridges the powder had turned into solidified chunks. Would it have been dangerous to shoot? I didn't care to find out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sapper740 View Post
    it had spider webs holding the pellets together in clumps while in other cartridges the powder had turned into solidified chunks.
    I lucked in to about one hundred 30-40 Kragicon military at a show once from an acquaintance. The dates were everything from 1899 to much later in the '30s. I pulled all of them apart to at least change the primers. I decided to change all the powder AND the primers because even though there were a few crisp clean cases with fresh looking powder, some were clumpy and solid. Some had turned back to liquid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sapper740 View Post
    Here's another free 2 cents worth of opinion (isn't that an oxymoron?): I wouldn't risk damaging an expensive milsurp to save the price of a pound or two of powder. That's just me. I picked up a couple of hundred rounds of surplus 7.65 X 53 Argentineicon at a Flea Market for ten bucks and broke a bunch down. They had dates going all the way back to 1910 and some of the powder looked like it had spider webs holding the pellets together in clumps while in other cartridges the powder had turned into solidified chunks. Would it have been dangerous to shoot? I didn't care to find out.
    If the powder in my Turk ammo looks like that I would toss it in the garden as well. But if it looks good, I’d think it’s okay. Broke down 8mm Lebel rounds with grey silvery square flake powder. Shoots great.



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    I pulled and reloaded 100rd. of this Turk last year to get away from the corrosive primers. Powder chg. averaged 47g. I backed it down to 42.5g and set the bullet a little deeper so the Lee crimp die got a better grip. Shoots ok in my Yugoicon M48.

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    A lot of us use Turkishicon 8mm ammo here in Las Vegas at our thrice monthly shoots. I run it as-is in my Persian often. A few of the guys break it down, reduce the powder charge by about 10%, and recharge the exact same primed case. They just want a bit less recoil because, yes, it is a hotter than average load. We don't run it in our semi-automatics or machine guns.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KneverKnew View Post
    I have several hundred Turkishicon 8 mm Mauser rounds that I plan on pulling down.
    I would have to echo the others here and say replace the powder using modern powders. Thats a lot of work (and primer expense) to not have good shooting and reliable ammo. But I do have one question, why are you taking them down in the first place? If the power id good enough to re-use that why go to all the trouble of breaking them down and reloading them?
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    Quote Originally Posted by usabaker View Post
    I would have to echo the others here and say replace the powder using modern powders. Thats a lot of work (and primer expense) to not have good shooting and reliable ammo. But I do have one question, why are you taking them down in the first place? If the power id good enough to re-use that why go to all the trouble of breaking them down and reloading them?
    What I’ve heard is lots of hang fires or FTF. Also want to reduce hot loads to more tolerable levels for my shoulder as well as my guns.



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