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    I Don't Understand This About eBay...

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/266924308264?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=CETwASvZRdm&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=vzWtgAVcRH G&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

    So this above M1905 bayonet ended on ebay yesterday at 11.44 am local time. What strikes me as strange is even though it had 1 bid on it and no reserve it immediately came back up for sale within minutes of the auction ending. I only know this because I have an active search for these with ebay and I get emails when new ones come up. I was watching this auction with dubious interest because it's so pitted and in such nasty condition I was wondering if anyone would bid on it.

    Now it's not possible that the seller bid on it with a ghost account for the initial bid and automatic bidding to try to get the price up on it would he? But that's unethical and things like that don't happen on ebay, do they?

    All sarcasm aside THIS is the very reason I no longer bid on anything on ebay. It has become ridiculous there with this kind of activity and it's both blatant and obvious yet ebay does nothing to stop it. If an item has neither a buy it now or make offer option I just pass it buy. Remember when you could bid on something and won it for a decent price, before the swoopers showed up and grabbed it with 7 seconds left in the auction only to see it relisted a week later with the identical listing and a higher initial price? Rant over.

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/266924308264?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=CETwASvZRdm&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=vzWtgAVcRH G&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media

    Trying the link again
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    Quote Originally Posted by browningautorifleicon View Post
    You got it thanks. That usually works for me, I don't know what the issue is this time.

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    Shill bidding I feel has been part of the E-bay culture I feel hard to prove but I do reckon it goes on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CINDERS View Post
    Shill bidding
    I had it happen in a local online bid auction site. Twice I had the bid brought up to just consume what money I had set there but not actually overtake me. I still win but at a more expensive price. I am convinced the site owners have a back door to see what you had bid. Anyway with their winners premium it's way too expensive and seems crooked. I'm done with them. I just buy at a "Buy it now" price that seems OK. No bidding war or sniping.
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    The seller also states that the bayonet is all original! All original?? The guard has been hack sawed to eliminate the piece that the barrel slips into. Selective photography and descriptions that leave out pertinent information are my pet peaves.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oldfoneguy View Post
    So this above M1905 bayonet ended on ebay yesterday at 11.44 am local time. What strikes me as strange is even though it had 1 bid on it and no reserve it immediately came back up for sale within minutes of the auction ending. I only know this because I have an active search for these with ebay and I get emails when new ones come up. I was watching this auction with dubious interest because it's so pitted and in such nasty condition I was wondering if anyone would bid on it.
    Sometimes with the eBay "system" it is/was possible to resist an item while the item is still an active listing. I only realised that this was possible after inadvertently doing it myself several times and ending up with 2 listings for the same item. Obviously when I realised what I had done I deleted the duplicate listing because I didn't wan't to end up selling the same item twice.

    I think this could happen if you "resisted" from the "Ended" list because this list included all the items that had ended and had been re-listed, i.e. re-listing them didn't remove them from the ended list.

    Re-listing from the "unsold" list removes the item from the list as it is re-listed and avoids a duplicate listing.

    eBay might have updated their system now to avoid inadvertent duplicate listings.

    eBay do sometimes say that they only make a listing of a same item visible to buyers once the first one has been sold.
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    Sure shilling is a thing. I also know for fact many people bid and then think twice about it layer - more often than you would think. They no-pay, or whine to the seller that they bid by mistake.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ssgross View Post
    Sure shilling is a thing. I also know for fact many people bid and then think twice about it layer - more often than you would think. They no-pay, or whine to the seller that they bid by mistake.
    Possible that the bidder didn't realize it wasn't a bayonet anymore but just a big knife and backed out. eBay now has a cancel order button that I never noticed before.

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    Have you messaged the seller to check that the item is still available? As I tried to explain in post 7 if the seller inadvertently had a duplicate listing for the same item, the 2nd listing for the non existent duplicate item may only become visible to buyers once the item which does exist has been sold and the original listing disappears.

    A little while ago I was interested in a radio spare parts box but exactly the same identical box with matching scratches was listed by 2 sellers at different prices but in the same location. I couldn't figure out what was going on and so I steered well clear of it.

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