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Originally Posted by
eb in oregon
There were few aircraft with 20mm cannon in 1939. Most had rifle caliber machine guns and the US was the only one at the time to use .50 caliber guns.
The Messerschmitt BF-109 was designed around a centrally-mounted 20mm "motorkanone" that fired through the propeller hub and a pair of cowl-mounted, synchronized machine guns. Some later versions went to two wing-mounted canons canons and the tow machine guns. It was regular practice for the pilots to fire the MGs first, "walk" the tracers onto the target, then fire the canon(s).
Bob
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Originally Posted by
Bob Womack
The Messerschmitt BF-109 was designed around a centrally-mounted 20mm "motorkanone" that fired through the propeller hub
I did say "few." The P-39 had a 37mm cannon firing through the propeller hub, so that's two in 1939. And we knew nothing of the "Zero" at the time.
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Originally Posted by
eb in oregon
There were few aircraft with 20mm cannon in 1939.
Yes but it was still in our FMs when we adapted the C6-(MAG58) in '87 and still when I last saw the books in '08.
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Type 99 rifle with special rear sights
The Japanese incorporated the anti aircraft sights on their standard infantry rifle, the Type 99 in 7,7 mm thought out WW2
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Originally Posted by
RCS
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Japanese incorporated the anti aircraft sights on their standard infantry rifle, the Type 99 in 7,7 mm thought out
Attachment 137069 WW2
The last two versions did not have them. The "last ditch" was a very basic rifle. I have very nice last ditch, looks to be unissued. No anti-aircraft sight on it or the type 99 just before the last ditch.
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Your right about the "last ditch" rifles, but my point was they did have anti aircraft sights ftom 1939 to around 1944. That is a long time .
I have two Type 99 rifles (1943 & 1944) my cousin sent them to my father from Nagasaki in 1945, have shot them and reloaded the Norma cartridges
but the anti aircraft sights were long obsolete yet they continued production ?
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Originally Posted by
RCS
anti aircraft sights were long obsolete yet they continued production
Possibly still useful against antiquated Chinese aircraft, I suppose.
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Am I the only one who feels kind of a shiver thinking to be in the “first row”?
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