Long Branch Experimental 80L rifle butt stock pad

[jawes]

Does anyone know whom the manufacturer of the rubber butt stock pad was?
Any detailed pictures of one out there?

[Lance]

I do believe they were Hawkins, same as the Long Branch Lightweight

[Surpmil]

Jostam "Anti-Flinch" wasn't it?

[Lee Enfield]

If you're talking about the 80L rifles, Long Branch appears to have manufactured the pads themselves.

The 80L pads are not Hawkins, nor are they Jostams.
Generally a sure sign of a fake is a Jostam pad.

[Surpmil]

Interesting. What evidence is there that Long Branch made them?

You don't think Jostam might have made them without markings on request?

[Lee Enfield]

Interesting. What evidence is there that Long Branch made them?

You don't think Jostam might have made them without markings on request?

No they are constructed totally differently, and is a different type of rubber.

They appear to have been fabricated in pieces.

The rear pad section almost seems to have been attached separately - possibly glued on, or cast in stages perhaps (possibly part of a mold for the slashes??).

The rubber appears to have been clear and dyed (presumably) during molding/construction.

[Surpmil]

Presumably made under license then, since the design was patented by Jostam and the Canadian examples appear identical overall.

Also possible that Jostam had a licensed manufacturer in Canada since in those days a modicum of "protectionism" still prevailed.

[Lee Enfield]

Presumably made under license then, since the design was patented by Jostam and the Canadian examples appear identical overall.
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I have come to the realization that you must be looking at black and white photos?, because that is the only reason I can think that they could appear identical.

I will try to take side by side photos and add them to the thread.

[Surpmil]

I have come to the realization that you must be looking at black and white photos?, because that is the only reason I can think that they could appear identical.

I will try to take side by side photos and add them to the thread.

Yes, the vast majority are B&W, but colour is easy to change in manufacture, whereas a patented design not so much. Still, if it was a 1915 patent it might have expired by 194_.

Photos would be good, thanks.

[Lee Enfield]

Here are some photos of an original "80L8" butt pad. They appear to have been a light beige/tan translucent rubber dyed black. They also appear to have been fabricated or poured in stages perhaps. The colour doesn't really show in the photos.