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Originally Posted by
MAC702
With a Forster gauge set, that means you are within .006" of "go," so you are plenty good!
Thanks I’m also waiting for my muzzle wear erosion wear gauge tool to come in.
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12-15-2024 01:19 AM
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Originally Posted by
Rakkasan
Thanks I’m also waiting for my muzzle wear erosion wear gauge tool to come in.
Muzzle wear was 1.5 on the gauge, I’m assuming that is good?
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Originally Posted by
Rakkasan
Muzzle wear was 1.5 on the gauge, I’m assuming that is good?
"Probably." Muzzle gauging is not an exact science, and more of a relative thing, once you know what normal is for that exact barrel design (and gauge).
Do you have other .30 cal rifles to play with?
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Originally Posted by
MAC702
"Probably." Muzzle gauging is not an exact science, and more of a relative thing, once you know what normal is for that exact barrel design (and gauge).
Do you have other .30 cal rifles to play with?
I don’t
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1.5 is not terrible especially for an 82 year old barrel. Many early replacement barrels were 2 groove, is your barrel a 2 or 4 groove?
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Originally Posted by
oldfoneguy
1.5 is not terrible especially for an 82 year old barrel. Many early replacement barrels were 2 groove, is your barrel a 2 or 4 groove?
I’m not sure
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If we are spitting hairs here...the multi-diameter muzzle gauge is not the end of the story. A muzzle gauge must be read proportional to bore diameter. So you know the max diameter at the muzzle...but relative to what? Bore tolerances were something like 0.2995 min to 0.3015 max for the m1. I don't have my 1903 reference at hand, but I would imagine something similar. So you see your 1.5 reading could be a pristine NOS barrel or it could be well used. Using both a muzzle gauge, the actual bore diameter (from pin gauges or slug the bore, or both actually if you want to know all the details), and a throat erosion gauge tells a more complete picture of how "used" your barrel is. For comparison I have a rack grade garand hanging on my wall. The muzzle reads 1+, the throat is at 9+. The bore is pristine. It was well taken care of, even though it was shot...a lot.
Headspace is safe. Stock fits tight. Go shoot and enjoy!
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Originally Posted by
Rakkasan
I’m not sure
I tried to photograph 2 of my barrels, my Garand
while dirty is pristine and a perfect example of 4 groove Springfield rifling. The 5th line is just copper from firing. I really need to get to cleaning these rifles after the holidays.
Second is the only 2 groove I own a Maltby Enfield No4 MKI. It is also dirty and kind of hard to see but it is exactly as described. 2 large flats and 2 grooves, in this case the 2 copper color lines to the left and right.
The 2 groove was adopted by the allies as a wartime expedient faster and easier method of producing barrels. They provided acceptable accuracy and were indeed faster to make early on. Eventually it was found that production had met the pace of necessity and Enfield and Springfield both returned to conventional rifiling.
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Did Springfield make 2 groove barrels?
I thought it was only Remington who made 2 groove barrels
Last edited by SkyKid; 12-17-2024 at 08:14 AM.
Reason: spelling
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Originally Posted by
oldfoneguy
1.5 is not terrible especially for an 82 year old barrel. Many early replacement barrels were 2 groove, is your barrel a 2 or 4 groove?
I believe my barrel is a 4 groove
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