SUPER RARE Saginaw Hammer Marking ?

[320th INF]

Good morning,

Rare Saginaw hammer marking that I've never seen - could be ?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/375867916376

[jond41403]

In my opinion they are not rare. Charlie helped me with this very hammer when I first joined this forum. I had the same question because I have a hammer exactly like it in my mixmaster Winchester. I found an extra one after the members found another one for sale and alerted me to it and purchased it as a spare but I don't believe they are rare so to speak. I paid $40 for mine which wasn't even four or five years ago. some members refer to that marking as a dove instead of a flame.hth

[320th INF]

Thanks for the reply and information. I couldn't find an example other than some references to a diamond and triangle, but no actual photos.

[jond41403]

Yes unfortunately my original thread had pictures of my hammer but was lost during the great picture blackout on this forum. I too described it as a flame, to me it looked like the flame from a Zippo lighter logo, But the other members here that had seen it before described it as a dove logo. If I remember correctly I think I titled my thread asking about it "unidentified mark on a Hammer"

[RCS]

While we are on the subject of Saginaw M1 carbine hammers, I have a few questions.

Some years ago, while in service, I found a Saginaw carbine hammer among some spare parts.
This part must have been from WW2 and i took this hammer, later I found out that it is a Saginaw "fatboy" dogleg hammer !

My questions: are these "fatboy" hammers common ? and from what time period were they used ?

Thanks Robert

[USGI]

I've got an S'G' Carbine made in 1943 with that hammer. The s/n is 1829338. I think the marking is identical to yours, but have seen a marking that's different - not sure if was fake or not. I don't have access to the computer with pics of mine right now, but hope to later today. The CCC website might help narrow down the dates they were used a bit. My "good buddy" Charlie may be able to help out if he's not still out looking for coyotes. - Bob

[RCS]

thanks for the information. I thought around 1943

Robert

[USGI]

Robert: Here are the pictures of my S'G' hammer. Looks a lot like yours. The first picture shows one I saw on GB with markings a bit different than mine shown to the right. Mine has a "2" on the front like yours, but mine is vertical. I've added other pictures of the same hammer and one of the gun. Any genuine USGI "dogleg" carbine hammer in good shape is very valuable. These hammers like yours and mine are correct for IP's as well and S'G' carbines. - Bob

[jond41403]

Bob, you're set up looks about like mine when I go to the range haha. Got to have my spotters scope because my eyes arent as good as they used to be but instead of a square of carpet, I use towels to lay my firearms on. Sometimes I get looks from other people but it doesn't bother me, I don't want to put any nicks on my milsurps that weren't already there from their past. You can tell just from that picture that you are a very good caretaker of your firearms. That is one beautiful stock on your carbine

[jond41403]

Hey Bob, is it easier to get a good site picture with the front sight ears shaved off? Seems like I have read of that modification on several other carbines that have been seen over the years. Seems to me that it would be easier to get on target quickly with the front sight that way