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Originally Posted by
Eaglelord17
When I saw the thread title I was curious as to which safety issue you were referring to (as the Gew 88 has so many to choose from). Sounds like worn parts in this particular case though.
Please explain the many safety issues .
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01-07-2025 03:53 PM
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Usual suspects include lack of controlled feed allowing out of battery detonation when second round (spitzer) hits primer of chambered round, over pressure due to change in bullet diameter, and barrel jacket obscuring bad pitting of barrel.
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Explain over pressure do to bullet dia change . When the Gew-88 was in German
service it used two different bullet diameters , the .3188 P-88 and the .3208 S round in its .3208 groove barrel [ .323 post 1896 1/2 ] . I have over 100 Gew-88's and none have any pitting on the barrel .
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I've got no dog in the fight. Just relaying the standard stuff. Would be curious to know for sure why the throats were opened up in some cases though.
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Please continue this discussion with a more civil tone. Thanks.
Bob
"It is said, 'Go not to the elves for counsel for they will say both no and yes.' "
Frodo Baggins to Gildor Inglorion, The Fellowship of the Ring
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What part of any of the posts are not civil ? The throats on the rifles were not changed as the throat for the original P-88 ammo was 3x longer than needed for the shorter S ammo that had a bullet with a lot more taper . The chamber neck dia was checked to make sure a dirty S round would chamber easily as the S round cartridge neck was .002 larger in dia than the old P-88 . If there was already enough clearance the rifle was given the S stamp . Since most rifles as made already had .005+ clearance [ just measure a case fired in a non S marked rifle ] , they were just making sure ALL the rifles would chamber the S round . IF a tight chambered rifle was found they did ream the neck dia . BUT all of my non S and S rifles have the same size chamber necks , within specs . So that had nothing to do with pressure , just making sure the ammo would chamber in all rifles . If the bolt will close on a round in a tight neck chamber it will fire without a pressure problem . Many benchrest shooters [ including me ] shoot tight neck rifles with no problems . You have to use a little force to close the bolt , but with the tight fit you can reload the case without sizing it . Most benchrest shooters have a batch of about 25 cases that they keep reloading through out the match for each target round .
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Originally Posted by
bob q
What part of any of the posts are not civil ?
Well, frankly, your posting style was perceived as a little challenging and abrasive. It is okay to ask for clarification, but serves better to do so more gently. I asked for civility and your answer was in the same tone. Please ease up a little, my man. This can be no big deal.
Bob
"It is said, 'Go not to the elves for counsel for they will say both no and yes.' "
Frodo Baggins to Gildor Inglorion, The Fellowship of the Ring
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I do not understand how asking a question with a question mark is not civil ? Just like this . Statements were made and I asked that they be explained . I even said please . This is a real question , what was not civil ?
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Originally Posted by
bob q
the S round cartridge neck was .002 larger in dia than the old P-88
Thanks for the rational behind it there.
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You are welcome . I am glad my explanation made sense . There so so much bad info published about Gew-88 rifles . I have also seen the " corrosion under the jacket " in print , but never on real rifles . I do not know why people print it , just like the S round is longer than the old P-88 . If they had the two side by side they would seen that is not true .
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