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    Help identifying no4

    G'day, I bought a no4 mk1 enfield a couple of years back and boy im having a hard time idetifying it, due to the fact that it has been coated in black paint (or should i say drenched), it is almost impossible to make out proof marks etc.

    What I have read on it:

    Serial no: 19281
    FTR B
    1954 on the barrel

    but thats it, date of manufacture and any other receiver markings are below the paint which i dont want to remove.

    Does anyone have any idea at all as to some info on this rifle?

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    character above the number is an A?

    more pics other side of receiver? The paint has to be removed...around that serial number I suspect.

    Its probably a no4 mk1/2

    Where is the "FTR B"?
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    A few more receiver and wrist pics would help.

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    It's got Mk2 fore-end fitted which would indicate that it's a Mk1/2 or 1/3 rifle although not necessarily I hasten to add! If it's a BSA FTR it would tell me that this was a commercial post-war rebuild contract for an overseas buyer and not a UKicon Military contract as ours went through our own Ordnance Factories to keep them employed.

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    Here are some pics hope they help

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    and these two

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    I'm not sure that BSA did the Mk1/2 or 1/3 conversion. Anyone else confirm this?

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    BSA (presumed) did do Mk 1/2, 1/3 conversions in the mid-50's, but the markings are different.

    Did you remove the trigger guard to see if is a true conversion or if it is just fitted with a Mk 2 forend?

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    I read somewhere BSA did the conversions, so this could help narrow it down.

    ---------- Post added at 12:06 PM ---------- Previous post was at 12:05 PM ----------

    By the way, Lance, the timber on your rifle is superb

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