Information on my Lee-Enfield please

[ParkAvenue]

My grandmother is letting all of us grandchildren have a gun from my deceased grandfather's impressive collection. I had a great choice to choose from, there was the British .22 trainer, the .308 Winchester that I am an excellent shot with, and of course there was the gun I ultimately chose. My father is upset because he thinks it is ugly and holds no value what so ever. As soon as I held this rifle I knew it was mine, do not really know how to describe the feeling. It has an issue where if the stock is pointing down it will lose its bolt, my father has it currently because he is the one who wants first shot just in case it blows up. I am curious if anyone can give me information on it. The only numbers and info I have are:

*White letters on stock 5BN 65
*S No 4 MK1
*Stamped US Property
*Magazine is not matching numbers, but everything else appears to be
*I believe my father said the serial number was 99c8104

hopefully in the next week or so I can get over to my dad's house and take pictures. I really do not care about value due to the fact it was my grandfather's rifle. Just facts would be awesome! It is beat up looking, and like I said the bolt falls out when held in a certain position but I like Ugly Betty, my father not so much.

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[browningautorifle]

You have a US property Savage arms .303 service rifle. Good choice. I seriously doubt it will blow up as it's sounds like it's fired more ammo than you all collectively have seen. They're strong and reliable and if you look through the threads here there's a plethora of info about Savage rifles...

[Roy]

Welcome to the Milsurps Forum. Congratulations on your choice, a No4 Mk1 made by Savage, the well known US arms maker. and supplied to British Commonwealth forces during and after WW2 under the lend lease scheme. Cant really help on the stock markings, 5th Battalion 65th division ? but I dont think they are front line unit markings. perhaps used in training, reserve or home service. The bolt problem, is the bolt head clipped in to the rail on the right of the receiver?

No-one here will think its ugly.


Now get some pics up as soon as you get your hands on it.


Roy

[Badger]

Hello and welcome to the site ....

If you want to compare your Savage Enfield against an "all correct" as originally issued one, go to the United Kingdon - Milsurp Knowledge Library (click here) and view the 82 picture photo gallery montage for the 1943 Savage No.4 Mk1* Enfield Rifle (click here).

With thanks to Advisory Panel member Lance, there's also a rare "all correct" 1942 No.4 Mk1*(T) Savage Sniper Rifle (less scope) (click here) .....

Lance's article, accompanied by a detailed 165 pic photo montage, speaks to this example as being one of approximately 3,400 Savage rifles converted by Holland and Holland and re-barreled with an Enfield 5 groove barrel, however, it was never fitted with a matching No.32 scope.

Hope this helps...

Regards,
Doug

[Alan de Enfield]

.............. I like Ugly Betty, my father not so much.

That is not a very nice thing to say about your Father - show some respect young man !!!!!!

[Surpmil]

So it's safe to say your Dad didn't marry her then?

Forgive me, but I was wondering why Grandma was only letting you have one gun each from the collection?

[harry mac]

You said, "if the stock is pointing down it loses its bolt". Do you mean the rifle bolt falls out, or the stock bolt falls out?

[Quantrill]

That is not a very nice thing to say about your Father - show some respect young man !!!!!!

I'm assuming he meant his father doesn't like Ugly Betty. Not "I don't like my father".

[Alan de Enfield]

I'm assuming he meant his father doesn't like Ugly Betty. Not "I don't like my father".

Americans and English - one nation divided by two languages.

[Surpmil]

Yes, except that "off his horse" is not a subordinate clause and therefore no comma is required.

They meant well, anyway.