Trophy IP

[wtmr]

274170691 on GB sets the record for most faked parts used on a gun I have seen for sale. It really lets one know to what level our hobby has sank to. I think is time they start calling them what they are. it should just be called a reproduction gun based on redone receiver. It does deserve a trophy for most faked IP on the net.

Irwin Pedersen M1 Carbine : WW1 & WW2 Collectibles at GunBroker.com

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[ScottR]

You missed his Rock-ola, GB #-274174891. Both are full of Riverbank Armory reproduction parts.

[wtmr]

another more wise collector has pointed out to me the receiver may be faked as well, lets see how many experienced eyes here can spot the major error on the receiver-its a major whoopsy-maybe only front sight may be only unmucked USGI visible part that is real and not reproduced or re-manufactured -this thing is very smelly

[JimF4M1s (Deceased)]

The Rock-Ola marked receiver looks like someone took a grinder to it, oh they did. Horrible job.

[USGI]

It looks to me like the channel the slide runs in is way too short at the rear. On my S'G' receiver, that groove extends a lot farther back. If you look close, it looks like the top of the receiver is cut down a bit at the rear in the area where the manufacturer and s/n information is located.
- Bob

[phil441]

And that, my friends, is why I post so seldom anymore. My hobby has been prostituted by pros who just get better and better at making their bogus wares. I lack the knowledge to tell good from bad anymore. Does anyone have any idea why our little niche interest has gained so many bad guys? Just curious.

[theholeinthedonut]

Because of the big money! Offer and demand drives prices up...once they are at a certain level and a certain profit is guaranteed crooks and thieves are attracted like flies by the shyte! Once prices are solely based on the "ideal value" you can't avoid fraud anymore. I mean, just think about how many people are willing to spend 20.000$ on a Thompson. Those prices do not have any connection to the real materialistic value anymore, I bought a nearly mint M1 and M1A1 this morning, for 1550 $ all in all! Why is a mixmaster less worth then an all original, I paid as much for my mixmaster Inland then I paid for my original Underwood. It's all in our heads and in our wallets!

[MAford=5]

[QUOTE=wtmr;209174]another more wise collector has pointed out to me the receiver may be faked as well, lets see how many experienced eyes here can spot the major error on the receiver


Certainly not an expert, but trying to learn. His IP receiver looks a bit different than my CMP auction one. His seriel number is earlier though. My War Baby books are at a different location so I can't check right now.






Ray

[firstflabn]

Uninformed buyers are a necessary element in keeping the charlatans going, but nobody ever mentions buyer greed. Most of the scams throughout history have relied on a buyer eager for a steal - and in the process gets taken. If you need an explanation of the attraction of something for nothing, you don't understand human nature.

[topaz]

I see no flaming bomb on the rec, (rear) above the no. also the milling (for the slide) does not follow along the side of the rec. the ridge behind the rear sight looks a little funny. All no good signs .