NO 4 MK1 (T) VERIFICATION

[TRAMO]

I have a no 4 mk 1 (T) , i am certain it is a true (T) RIFLE, but i would like to get it verified by someone that would know for sure. it has all the markings on the metal it should have, the but stock numbers are not correct. the but stock does have the S 5 1 in the correct spot . you have to look at it at a certain angle to see it good. i sent pics to Capt stevens he says he thinks its the real thing.HE SAID ITS UNUSUAL to have a letter on that end of the serial # i live near nashville tn . I would gladly take it to someone that could look at it for me.serial # 36196V. i have owned this for over 20 years. import mark is from century arms. The guy i bought it from said he bought it from century arms.thanx tramo

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[Roger Payne]

Can you post some pictures TRAMO? If you can you'll have people falling over themselves to help you.

[TRAMO]

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[Alan de Enfield]

the but stock numbers are not correct.

The 4T was supplied by H&H with a 'N' length butt only, if, when it was issued, the sniper required as 'S' or 'L' length then it would be changed by an Armourer and would then be down to the armourer to number / mark it up 'if he wanted to'.



Copy of extract from the 1944 Components list

[Surpmil]

The 4T was supplied by H&H with a 'N' length butt only, if, when it was issued, the sniper required as 'S' or 'L' length then it would be changed by an Armourer and would then be down to the armourer to number / mark it up 'if he wanted to'.

Copy of extract from the 1944 Components list

The "fine adjustment backsight" reference is slightly odd, since it was simply a standard No.4 Rifle backsight!
A conscious or unconscious hold-over from the description of the No.3 MkI*(T) presumably.

[RobD]

There's something about the engraved serial number font which looks a bit European, e.g. German... is it just me? Did the European nations e.g. Germany receive any No 4 (T)s after the war?

[Alan de Enfield]

The "fine adjustment backsight" reference is slightly odd, since it was simply a standard No.4 Rifle backsight!
A conscious or unconscious hold-over from the description of the No.3 MkI*(T) presumably.

Guesswork :

Maybe it was to ensure that they were only supplied with the Mk1 sight, rather than the MK2, 3 or 4 which may have been used at the time.

[TRAMO]

It did come through Ishapor at some point because it has the screw. could it have been FTR there?

[Bindi2]

It did come through Ishapor at some point because it has the screw. could it have been FTR there?

The screw is a British thing, just the Indians did it more.
The Aussies did it as well and they used big bolts too.