Plainfield Plant Robbed 1967

[painter777]

Since Plainfield was brought up I thought I'd add this.

In 1967 the Plainfield Machine Co plant was broken in to with 46 Carbines stolen.
Shortly afterward Firemen and Police were on the receiving end of sniper fire from the rooftops. With the Police being under gunned, Plainfield management loaned 50 Carbines to Police battling snipers, looters and rioters.

Story titled: Guns of Riots starts on pages 22, 23-24 and concludes on page 69.

Another story written (IMO) with some brown nose flare, but may interest some is about the *New Universals.*
Titled: New Look of the M1 Carbine
Starts on page 42, 43 then on to 53 to 56.

https://gunsmagazine.com/wp-content/...8/12/G1167.pdf

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[fjruple]

It is my understanding that Carbines were not M1 but M2 Carbines which were under contract to the South Vietnamese police. The US military was not permitted to arm local foreign police departments with MDAP weapons. The M1 story was to minimize the fact that machineguns were stolen. I have it under good authority that to date none the weapons were recovered. The local police, the state police and national guard pretty well trashed the local neighborhoods looking for the "Carbines". The city and state had to pick up the tab for the damages. And that my friends is why the M1 Carbine is banned in NJ.

[TBIRD430]

Wow!! Crazy history there....

[tenOC]

Pretty sure the real reason the 1 Carbine is banned in New Jersey is for another reason. The same reason all the other banned ones are banned. Same reason they're banned in NYC.

[Bob Womack]

My wife spent her teens one town over in the town of North Plainfield. Decades later Plainfield was still a wasteland, not from the police, but from damage from the rioters. The people who stole the weapons used them on the first responders who responded to the fires they set.

Bob

[browningautorifle]

Decades later Plainfield was still a wasteland, not from the police, but from damage from the rioters.

There are a few places like that. People left and the destruction barely even got cleaned up let alone rebuilt.

[fjruple]

Bob-- The local "residents" were pretty well armed to begin with. You can see that reflected in what is going on in our intercities today. Control by the local government is only that turf you stand on. Newark has never recover from the riots. Boarded up buildings, corruption and razor wire everywhere. I felt safer in downtown Ramadi.

[browningautorifle]

A manufacturer would not have a lot laying around.

I'm not so sure, for testing and targeting there would be ammo required. Sure, it would get consumed but it's possible there would be substantial on hand.

I felt safer in downtown Ramadi.

But there you were carrying an M4 and a cummerbund full of mags ready for a scrap.

[fjruple]

I'm not so sure, for testing and targeting there would be ammo required. Sure, it would get consumed but it's possible there would be substantial on hand.



But there you were carrying an M4 and a cummerbund full of mags ready for a scrap.

Jim-- Not really my MTOE weapon was a Beretta M9 pistol. It was a joke. The natives were carrying at a minimum AKs and here I am with my little pop gun. I found a Yugo M70AB2 AK with a folding stock laying in the desert. Cleaned it up. I got extra magazines and some good 7.62x39 ammo from the Special Ops folks. I used that until we got some M16A2 rifles in from states side. I love when armchair commandos write up an MTOE and never been in a hostile environment.

[eb in oregon]

Jim-- Not really my MTOE weapon was a Beretta M9 pistol. It was a joke. The natives were carrying at a minimum AKs and here I am with my little pop gun. I found a Yugo M70AB2 AK with a folding stock laying in the desert. Cleaned it up. I got extra magazines and some good 7.62x39 ammo from the Special Ops folks. I used that until we got some M16A2 rifles in from states side. I love when armchair commandos write up an MTOE and never been in a hostile environment.

Those would be the same idiots that wrote the MTOE for Cavalry Scouts, believing a TOW missile in heavy forest is better than a MaDeuce or a MK19. We trained for years in heavy forrest using TOWS and would rarely have ever had a shot over 200 meters. Darn good observation device though.