Enfield Prices (UK)

[Simon P]

My friend purchased the Enforcer in the sale, which will need a bit of tender loving care to bring back to original spec.

Any one got a Pecar 4-10 x 45 for sale if so I can put you in contact as he is now looking for one for this rifle.

[jrhead75]

So - what's the verdict ?
Serial Number A65

Haven't seen 'em all, but I've never seen a legit one with that style cocking piece. Other than that...not much else to go on.

[Alan de Enfield]

My friend purchased the Enforcer in the sale, which will need a bit of tender loving care to bring back to original spec.

Any one got a Pecar 4-10 x 45 for sale if so I can put you in contact as he is now looking for one for this rifle.

They have turned up semi-frequently at the same auction house and generally make £200-£400 depending on condition.
Tell him to make sure it has the correct graticule (for an Enforcer) as they are very hard to find and are generally £100+.
If he needs to know which graticule to get tell him to email me (he has my details)

Not all Enforcers were supplied to the Police with a scope - it depended on the state of the Forces budget at the time - a Scope would be added later out of next years budget. The local POlice Armourer would source whatever type of scope he wanted and was not forced to use a Pecar 4-10. I have seen Enforcers with very strange scopes on them with full provenance attached to them


It was a little 'rough' in areas and I'm not 100% convinced that the Police fitted accessory rails - he will also need a PH5E/4 rear sight as that was missing as well. Tell him to ensure it is a PH 5E/4 and not a PH5E as the 5E is for a mauser action.
Dont try a PH5C as it wont fit - it fouls the scope rings.

I bet he thought he was on to a 'winner' when the hammer first went down, then the auctioneer 're-auctioned' it as he had 'missed' a bidder - then it made more than twice the price.
I spoke to him after the auction and have been in touch by Email since - nice chap.

[Thunderbox]

I bet he thought he was on to a 'winner' when the hammer first went down, then the auctioneer 're-auctioned' it as he had 'missed' a bidder - then it made more than twice the price.
I spoke to him after the auction and have been in touch by Email since - nice chap.

I think there is a bit of a cartel operating at that auction site; I twice lost lots due to my bid being ignored and the lots being knocked down to someone else - even though in each case I'd had several bids acknowledged and was still clearly holding up my card....

[bigduke6]

I think there is a bit of a cartel operating at that auction site; I twice lost lots due to my bid being ignored and the lots being knocked down to someone else - even though in each case I'd had several bids acknowledged and was still clearly holding up my card....

I,ve seen this the few times I have been there and am sure Alan has witnessed it also, what one would call a one horse race.....

As for the No1 MkV, serial No A65, will reserve comment as yet but highly recomend Simon P (PM on the way) returns it to Scotarms ASAP for a refund, take it from me its not original, as I know where it come from and was in my possesion and on my books for a day, until it was returned to the dealer I purchased it from, I lost a few quid on that because the dealer wouldnt do a pick up, as I dont buy and sell dont have an account with TNT so a one off cost over £60 to return it.
(Its No one on this forum so need for concern here)

Like I said earlier its the last place I,d off load some nice items, and I dont think these are coming fom a collecton of a collector, more a dealer trying to offload some items that have been on the shelf too long and have done a few too many miles in the back of a TNT van.

[Simon P]

I spoke to him after the auction and have been in touch by Email since - nice chap.

He has an outstanding small bore Enfield collection, probably the best in the UK, with many examples of rare trials rifles, he only went to the auction for the No7 Magazine!!!

[PrinzEugen]

How much did the enforcer sell for at the auction? Wish I lived nearer with all those bits and bobs at ok prices and interesting lots like enforcers coming up! Nowhere near Staffordshire like it, so far as I'm aware.

[spinecracker]

How much do the PH5E/4 rear sights cost, when they show up for sale? I am helping someone put another Enforcer back together, and the PH5E/4 is being a real bear to find lol.

[Badger]

A No1 MkV (which looked to me original - but I'm no expert on MkV) £768

For those that would like some additional background on the Mk5 ....

Check the United Kingdom - Milsurp Knowledge Library (click here)

There's an "all correct" one in library along with a 117 picture photo montage...

1924 ShtLE (Short Lee-Enfield) No.1 MkV Rifle (Mfg by RSAF Enfield).

Also, in case some of you guys haven't seen it, there's an outstanding article in the form of a "stickied thread" located in Restorer's Corner Forum (click here).

It's an on-going thread with a detailed description including excellent pics of a complete restoration of a previously sporotortized SMLE No1 MkV, started last June 2010 by member bigduke6. Geoff has done an awesome job with this old girl and for any of you thinking about performing any restorations or rebuilds yourselves, it would make for a really interesting read to follow along through to its completion.

SMLE No1 MkV Restoration (click here)

(Click PIC to Enlarge)

Thanks for sharing the journey and the process with us Geoff… well done …

Regards,
Doug

[Alan de Enfield]

How much do the PH5E/4 rear sights cost, when they show up for sale? I am helping someone put another Enforcer back together, and the PH5E/4 is being a real bear to find lol.

I have sold quite a few on ebay over the last few years with prices peaking at around GBP £300. Prices have dipped recently so I'd say £150 would be about 'right'. They are few and far between now as people building (re-building) Enforcers / clones have been snapping them up.

I believe that the 5E/4 was specific to the Enforcer, if that is true then probably not many more than 767 were manufactured.
DO NOT buy a PH5E as this is for a mauser action and will not fit a No4 action.
DO NOT try a PH5C as this will not fit as it fouls the scope rings.