Inland RRA Rebuild, DCM Or Not?

[USGI]

My older Mavica didn't have the card slot, so couldn't use "memory sticks" when Sony came out with them. The work-around was to use the "floppy disk adapter" that would accept the memory sticks. At that time, the adapter and memory sticks cost as much as a good camera does now. If you are a "die-hard" you might still be able to find the adapter and memory sticks, but they are fragile and slow. Back to the DCM/CMP carbines: I found out that one of my carbines was from CMP by "googling" the S/N. Google came back with a link to an auction that pictured my carbine! Not quite like having the papers, but I saved images of the auction hoping that it might give me an advantage when time comes to sell it. I doubt that this method works very often, though! - Bob

[tspence35]

Thanks for all you folks help and information. I will post some pictures when I get another camera. Thanks again

[GeorgeP]

The DCM carbines of the early sixties were sold off because they were deemed" unserviceable". This was because they had never been through an arsenal rebuild. I have observed many carbines that don't make "sense". They have a mixture of early and late features. Type one band and safety, but a late adjustable rear sight is common. Many with highwood stocks. The rear sights were often replaced at the unit level I am told. If you carbine has a rebuild mark then at the very least the stock has been though and arsenal rebuild. I have bought some primo highwood stocks from people who said the carbine it came from was a DCM. They just changed because they wanted a different stock at the time. The possibilities are endless. You carbine might be a DCM but will probably never be proven to be so. Anything is possible in the world of the M1 Carbine. I guess I should just say in my opinion you carbine is not a DCM. Others can disagree with everything I said but that's ok by me.

[DaveHH]

At the time there were still hundreds of thousands of them in storage, the units still using them like the Air Force and Coast Guard had all they needed and the racks were still full. The DCM sales are a major source for the late built Inlands and Winchesters which went to the racks brand new with adjustable sights but no type 3 band from the factory.

[jimb16]

That is NOT why they were deemed unserviceable. It was because the Government no longer stocked parts for repair and maintenece. The firarm was no longer a fist or even a second line weapon at that time so armorers no longer had access to parts to service the carbine.

[Wineman]

Mine is just like that one. My dad got it with a subscription to the American Rifleman NRA membership. Inland Rec and barrel, everything else from someone else. Well, front sight and recoil lug are "I"'s. Unfortunately it got "Bubbed" by me in the 1970's and the original stock and III barrel band are gone, plus the hole for the scope mount . It is now back in 1960's trim with an M2 stock.

Dave

[Neal Myers]

My recollection is that the carbines were sold as "Unclassified/Unserviceable", all sales final. DCM never bothered explaining the meaning of the terms, but I have no reason to doubt jimb16's definition of unserviceable; I'm guessing that unclassified meant "we never took the time to look at them, so you take your chances on condition". I have seen many that I would call "unissued since rebuild", & some that were "well used after rebuild". I'd be interested in hearing if anyone has actually seen a documented DCM carbine in "new" condition, as I never have.

I wouldn't say that carbines were obsolete in the '60s; my Army Reserve unit (92nd Field Hospital) had > 200 carbines beyond 1970, when I left. If there was a problem with one, we just tagged it, as we had been told they couldn't be repaired. We cleaned & oiled them after shooting them for qualification, generally every 3- 4 years.

The reason the DCM sales was cut short in the '60s is because some our command in Viet Nam was asked to supply them to the ARVN, as M1's & M14's were just too big & heavy for the South Vietnamese, the war was heating up. We were committed to arming all of our troops with M16's first, & the ARVN couldn't wait for them. I would guess that carbines were maintained by cannibalizing parts; tons of receivers were demilled by being cut in half.

DCM didn't have racks ---- of anything. DCM was just an office in Washington DC, with clerks, desks, & file cabinets. I know, I was there. After collecting paperwork & payment, they would send multiple copies of paperwork to a US arsenal for release (direct shipment) of a gun to the buyer.

Although a huge number of carbines were rebuilt after Korea, there's really no way to tell if a carbine was worked on then, or later.

Neal

[firstflabn]

I have observed many carbines that don't make "sense". They have a mixture of early and late features. Type one band and safety, but a late adjustable rear sight is common.

Might want to acquaint yourself with MWO ORD B28-3?

[CrossedCannons]

SUGGESTION: Don't worry about "Windows compatible hardware". Boot a live Linux CD. I'm pretty sure something like Knoppix will detect your "floppy". Then just copy the files to your hard drive for use by Windows 8 if you aren't willing to replace it permanently by a real operating system

[tspence35]

I'm curious, what's a real operating system?