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Looking for information on beautiful Steyr M95
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No S stamp on the barrel that I can see so it's likely still chambered in 8x50R not 8x56R. Acceptance stamp on barrel looks like a 5 maybe 6? If so that's the last digit of the year of acceptance so 1905 or 1906, not necessarily a manufacture date but an acceptance for service mark. Looks like there are possibly unit marks on the butt plate. Definately nicer wood than what's on mine. I can't tell for sure from your pictures if its a rifle or carbine, but if it's a carbine it's a cut down rifle, you can tell by the banded front sight and long rear sight. A lot of them were converted to carbines after WWI.
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It's a czech S lion 6 marking from what I can tell. There is a 15 above that that looks possibly stamped over at one point.
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It's a full length rifle by the way. Beautiful tiger striped stock!
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From what I am able to tell it appears to be a 1915 accepted M95 made at Steyr (the original acceptance mark is mostly faded with only the light '15' remaining). The original acceptance mark could have just been light (very common, especially during WWI) or it could have been partially removed by the Czechs.
This rifle was used by the Czechslovakia post-WWI, as evidenced by the 'S-Lion-5'. That particular stamp means it was issued to the Ceske Budejovice military district (there are codes for the 1-12 after the lion part of the stamp 5 being the district I listed). That stamp was also only used from 1919-1922. Odds are the rifle is in the original 8x50r as the Czechs never adopted the 8x56r round, and it doesn't have any evidence of the 'S' or 'H' marking on the barrel shank (most of the original 8x50r rifles found come from either the Czechs or Italy
).
I can't help much with the butt-plate markings, but overall a nice example of a Czech
owned M95
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Originally Posted by
Eaglelord17
From what I am able to tell it appears to be a 1915 accepted M95 made at Steyr (the original acceptance mark is mostly faded with only the light '15' remaining). The original acceptance mark could have just been light (very common, especially during WWI) or it could have been partially removed by the Czechs.
This rifle was used by the Czechslovakia post-WWI, as evidenced by the 'S-Lion-5'. That particular stamp means it was issued to the Ceske Budejovice military district (there are codes for the 1-12 after the lion part of the stamp 5 being the district I listed). That stamp was also only used from 1919-1922. Odds are the rifle is in the original 8x50r as the Czechs never adopted the 8x56r round, and it doesn't have any evidence of the 'S' or 'H' marking on the barrel shank (most of the original 8x50r rifles found come from either the Czechs or
Italy
).
I can't help much with the butt-plate markings, but overall a nice example of a
Czech
owned M95
Thank you sir. That clears up a lot! I found one reloader who loads 8x50r so I might spring and order a couple of boxes and see how she does. I dont see very many of these for sell, at least on GunBroker. Do you have any general range of value? I purchased figuring it may one day make a nice collectable!
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Originally Posted by
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Thank you sir. That clears up a lot! I found one reloader who loads 8x50r so I might spring and order a couple of boxes and see how she does. I dont see very many of these for sell, at least on GunBroker. Do you have any general range of value? I purchased figuring it may one day make a nice collectable!
Learned on another forum that the butt plate marking is a unit number, by the way. Picked up this nice example of a Chinese Type 53 the same day! Great bore and an amazing shooter. All matching to boot!


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I can't really help you with value, up here in Canada
it is a whole different ball game.
Here I could see it in the 300-450$ range, but again that means nothing to how much it is worth in the US. Things to consider is just because they are uncommon-rare, doesn't mean they are valuable. 8x50r isn't really a desirable caliber outside of collectors, as next to no one makes ammo for it, and they in all honesty don't really preform too well in that caliber (I have a 8x50r Bulgarian M95, and it doesn't really like anything I have tried so far, it has a very tough time with a .323 bullet as the bore ranges out to .330).
This is a collector oriented rifle, but not too many people collect Mannlichers, they just don't seem to have the same appeal of say Lee Enfields or Mausers or Garands.
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Originally Posted by
Eaglelord17
I can't really help you with value, up here in
Canada
it is a whole different ball game.
Here I could see it in the 300-450$ range, but again that means nothing to how much it is worth in the US. Things to consider is just because they are uncommon-rare, doesn't mean they are valuable. 8x50r isn't really a desirable caliber outside of collectors, as next to no one makes ammo for it, and they in all honesty don't really preform too well in that caliber (I have a 8x50r Bulgarian M95, and it doesn't really like anything I have tried so far, it has a very tough time with a .323 bullet as the bore ranges out to .330).
This is a collector oriented rifle, but not too many people collect Mannlichers, they just don't seem to have the same appeal of say Lee Enfields or Mausers or Garands.
I never had any interest in them until I saw this in person. Pictures do not do it justice, I immediately fell in love with it. First one I've seen in person. I'd like to fire it a few times. They are extremely cool and interesting rifles.
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Originally Posted by
LesPaui+sg=win
It's a czech S lion 6 marking from what I can tell. There is a 15 above that that looks possibly stamped over at one point.
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It's a full length rifle by the way. Beautiful tiger striped stock!
I thought that looked kind of funny for an acceptance mark. Oh well I've still got a lot to learn. I've only had mine for about a month, and I never really researched them until I thought about buying one. I've unfortunately never seen a rifle in person, let alone one still in 8x50R but would like to find one someday.
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Originally Posted by
LesPaui+sg=win
I have heard it it best to use the proper clips when shooting these - rather than load a round into the chamber & force the extractor to ride up & over the rim. Something about very old metal in the extractor......
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I have heard it it best to use the proper clips when shooting these - rather than load a round into the chamber & force the extractor to ride up & over the rim. Something about very old metal in the extractor......
In regards to the M95? I have a couple of original enbloc strippers enroute to me from a friendly fella on a forum. In regards to the Mosin, I have strippers o' plenty for it!
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Originally Posted by
Kyle M.
I thought that looked kind of funny for an acceptance mark. Oh well I've still got a lot to learn. I've only had mine for about a month, and I never really researched them until I thought about buying one. I've unfortunately never seen a rifle in person, let alone one still in 8x50R but would like to find one someday.
Buddy, I dont think we will ever know the full history behind these neat rifles. They are by far the most difficult milsurp I have tried to research. I finally have a general idea about my rifle. Lol