PU Sniper - Eye Relief?

[amadeus76]

So I have a repro PU sniper. It’s well made, accurate with an excellent trigger. My only complaint is that the eye relief for the scope requires me to really crane my head forward. Is this normal?

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[Patrick Chadwick]

Doesn't sound right to me. The PU scope protrudes backwards quite a way, and if you have to crane your head forwards, then you are an unwitting candidate for the "scoper's badge" of a bloody crescent marking above your eyebrow. Or in my case, on a different rifle, a bruise on the cheek caused by the thumb being driven back very hard by 6 kg of scoped rifle. I am trying to train myself NOT to put my thumb over the neck of the stock, but sometimes one forgets...

The proper eye relief is when the aperture of the eyepiece is full of light. The common mistake (been there, done that) is unconsciously to try and get closer to the target -as if a couple of cm mattered - and thus too close to the eyepiece. Check it yourself - as you get closer and go beyond the eye relief point, the disc of light starts to shrink. I usually find I have to consciously pull back a little.

[Miller Tyme]

Eye relief is not the usual complaint on the PU sniper, rather its getting good check weld on the stock. There is a gentleman over on Gunboards that makes reproduction M41b sniper check rests that work very well on PU sniper stocks.

Here is a link to him, the 2nd pic shows it mounted on a PU sniper. I am not sure he still makes them but you may want to drop him a line and see.

WTS Swedish M41b Cheek rests, Made to order, New price

[amadeus76]

Doesn't sound right to me. The PU scope protrudes backwards quite a way, and if you have to crane your head forwards, then you are an unwitting candidate for the "scoper's badge" of a bloody crescent marking above your eyebrow. Or in my case, on a different rifle, a bruise on the cheek caused by the thumb being driven back very hard by 6 kg of scoped rifle. I am trying to train myself NOT to put my thumb over the neck of the stock, but sometimes one forgets...

The proper eye relief is when the aperture of the eyepiece is full of light. The common mistake (been there, done that) is unconsciously to try and get closer to the target -as if a couple of cm mattered - and thus too close to the eyepiece. Check it yourself - as you get closer and go beyond the eye relief point, the disc of light starts to shrink. I usually find I have to consciously pull back a little.

It's not that... Even craning my head forward there's still probably 2+ inches between my eye and the scope. What you stated about the eyepiece being full of light is the problem, it's not. I get enough light to use the scope with effort, but not enough to fill the eyepiece. It's almost as if the stock is too long but it's not any longer than any other milsurp/Warsaw stock. And yes, the measurements on the scope bracket setup are correct.

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Eye relief is not the usual complaint on the PU sniper, rather its getting good check weld on the stock. There is a gentleman over on Gunboards that makes reproduction M41b sniper check rests that work very well on PU sniper stocks.

Here is a link to him, the 2nd pic shows it mounted on a PU sniper. I am not sure he still makes them but you may want to drop him a line and see.

WTS Swedish M41b Cheek rests, Made to order, New price

It's not the cheek weld. I've never had a huge issue with WWII sniper comb heights. Sure they're not what you'd like or get from a modern rifle or even a Lee Enfield (T), but I've never found them to be a problem. As stated in my reply above, the scope isn't filling with light without me pushing my head forward.

[Patrick Chadwick]

Well, being a little bit puzzled by your problem, I just checked with "Ivan The Terrible" - my Been There and (quite possibly) Done That 1943 Mosin-Nagant sniper. The eye relief - measured from the back of the scope to my eyelid - is 7-8cm. Or round about 3". And the aperture is full of light.

If you do not get a fully lit aperture and have to move your eye as close as 5cm / 2" to get the maximum field, then something is definitely wrong with the scope.

[Aragorn243]

I have a repro scope on one of mine and have a different problem. I simply can't focus on the target with my glasses on. Take my glasses off and it's just fine. Only scope I own that I have that issue with. Not sure if it is because of my aging eyes and needing bifocals now or what. I did get new glasses recently but haven't tried them out on it. Now my scope is a repro repro, not one of the exceptionally good ones. It's a Fairfield.