They shot Trump

[Flying10uk]

Any thoughts on why the shooter might have decided to use an AR15 since, according to the press, he had access to around 20 guns?

[Aragorn243]

Hard to say without knowing what any of the other dozen guns were. It wouldn't be my first choice, but it is the most recognizable firearm and for a 20 year old out to make a name for himself if that's what he was doing, why not.

[Aragorn243]

Probably the biggest news about the shooting now is the attempted blame shifting by just about everyone. But it seems none of it is sticking. The head of the Secret Service is being mocked because she claimed that the roof was "sloped" and thus dangerous for personnel. Total crap as the roof the sniper team was on was sloped and higher and possibly steeper than the one the shooter was on. There are also multiple videos of people standing on and walking on that roof. It has a minimal pitch.

The bottom line is that everything is the Secret Services responsibility. They are in charge, they delegate positions, jobs, etc. to all other law enforcement. Security is what they do. Local law enforcement certainly isn't very experienced at that and even the State Police have minimal experience providing security against serious threats. I'm sure they have teams set up for this but were they there? I suspect they were filled up by the local barracks. Pittsburg is close so they probably did have some experienced people there but the Butler County police? No. Local police are great at their jobs but that isn't providing security for someone under threat of assassination.

[Aragorn243]

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I keep hearing about SS CS teams in the second floor window below the "Dangerously Pitched" roof chosen by the sure footed perp. I see no second story or windows?

[Ovidio]

https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo.../rlocQxA-1.jpg

I copied this and sent it to a few friends… We had such a lough. Frankly speaking, I hope a certain gal will be jobless in a few hours.
Some excuses can’t be heard!

[Aragorn243]

They were supposedly in the building, not sure about in any windows and it was ONE STORY. It is a low type building. There is an air conditioner between the two buildings, and he got on that and could reach the roof from there.

"An officer from the Butler Township Police climbed on a fellow officer’s shoulders to check out the roof of the building moments before the shooting — but backed away after Crooks pointed his rifle at him."

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https://img-s-msn-com.akamaized.net/...=89&s=116&d=42

Someone took photos of the FBI hosing the blood off the roof after the Secret Service idiot made the comment about the slope.

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FBI hosing the blood off the roof

Since when does FBI do cleanup?
Seems odd.
Perhaps the CS team was in what appears to be a taller building catty corner to the shooters position? Don't remember windows in that one either. Hard to do surveillance with no windows.
Whole thing seems off.

[Flying10uk]

roof was "sloped" and thus dangerous for personnel.

But don't you have rules/laws in the US relating to working above a certain height where certain safety precautions are "supposed" to be observed?

[Sapper740]

The Secret DEI Service is crowing on the news about how the counter sniper took a "1 in a Million" shot to take out the shooter. 1 in a million? My other word for a donkey! Have you seen pictures of the rifles used? High dollar optics, range finder, laser designator, heavy barreled rifle sitting in a Bog Deathgrip tripod? From a dedicated counter sniper team that gets unlimited tax-payer funded range time, equipment and ammo? My inexpensive Anderson Arms AM10 puts 168 gr. SMKs into 1 inch at 100 yds all day long and thats with a cheap Nikon scope. The SS is in full blown CYA mode right now.

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But don't you have rules/laws in the US relating to working above a certain height where certain safety precautions are "supposed" to be observed?

Oh yes, very much so. OSHA (Occupational Safety and Health Administration) would have fined the Police Department had they climbed on the roof after the shooter and the Crooks family will be receiving a harshly worded letter for their son attempting to kill Presdident Trump without appropriate tie off to a point rated by an accredited Safety Officer to accept a kinetic load of 5,000 lbs.