I couldn't find that cartridge that had the long case. I'm pretty sure I pulled it down and used the case for reloading. It was "new" ammo made in the Phillipines. I think I found the bullet in a "test" round that I made up. It's copper colored and isn't attracted by a magnet. I've got some of the current Armscor bullets that I've used for reloading and they work OK for me - seem to give better accuracy than plated lead. The current bullets (gold) aren't attracted by a magnet either, so there's no steel in them. - Bob