I'm with Stevo, I have the 8 mm and love it. Mine is strictly a mis-matched shooter. Combination of 8mm parts and 30/06 parts. I'm considering putting on an old pso-1 Romanian scope for a little x-tra help with these old eyes. I'm getting 2.5"@100 yards with it doing my part,, good luck either way, they are a blast-SDH