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    Jim and All,

    Please allow me to clarify my comments so that there are no misunderstanding.

    First, I knew what was going to happen when I read the "subject" comments that a person posted in the other thread - someone (for right or wrong) was going to object to it. It was human nature and it was very predictable.

    Second, while I have been in these forums for only a year, I know that there are a few specific things that will cause a major rift and cause everyone to pick sides. The Carbine Club, for whatever reason, is one of those topics that seem to cause that turmoil to surface. I have no idea why, but it does.

    Third, I wrote my comical comments above in hopes of defusing that arguement before it started. I am not sure that it was successful, but we will see by tomorrow morning if the lid is back on the boiling pot or if it is going to explode.

    Fourth, I do not believe that anyone on either side of the isle is intentionally being mean-spirited or is deliberately attacking anyone. This has always been a group of respectful gun-lovers and I am sure that it will stay that way. But I for one would prefer to be writing about cartouches or reading about Inland barrels than seeing posts about "he said" or "no your opinionis wrong". I am sure that if most of us wanted to get an arguement going, we could just deal with our ex-wives!

    Fifth, I have clearly noted that there are TWO seperate groups that co-exists here and most people in the community just don't pick up on it. And because it is not picked up on, these "flare points", like the issue of free vs pay information, are not at least respected. In a nutshell, this community consists of what I can call "hobbyists" and "collectors". There is nothing wrong with either group, but I will explain both terms in a separate post to help everyone understand where each other may be coming from. (Setting myself up to get flamed or banned for that one.)

    Lastly, yes, most of us have served in the US military. And please do not forget our brother Canadians (who host this board) also served both their country and as our allies to this day. I did my time and I have retired (hence the name). No one doubts anyone's resolve to be an American or even North American on this board. Yes, I know we have each other's back.

    I wish we can get on with talking about Type Iv vs Type V stocks. This and the other thread just needs to close. It only takes us all to just walk away from the thread. In short, I can say this....

    Dude, I'm just here because of the Carbines.....
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    Jim,
    I just read through the thread I think you're referring to. I found no mention of CC Members being elitists. Only a reference to some members who know things but refuse to share for whatever reasons.
    If the post that is causing consternation was one of mine, I apologize for any misunderstanding. If it was another thread, nevermind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phil441 View Post
    Jim,
    I just read through the thread I think you're referring to. I found no mention of CC Members being elitists. Only a reference to some members who know things but refuse to share for whatever reasons.
    If the post that is causing consternation was one of mine, I apologize for any misunderstanding. If it was another thread, nevermind.

    While TiredRetired is selling popcorn, I'll be selling butter to go with it.

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    Exclamation Say it ain't so, Ed....

    'Tired Retired',

    You didn't really just call Canadians - 'North' Americans!
    (This could become an International Incident!)

    Quote Originally Posted by Tired Retired View Post
    And please do not forget our brother Canadians (who host this board) also served both their country and as our allies to this day.
    No one doubts anyone's resolve to be an American or even North American on this board. Yes, I know we have each other's back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cafdfw View Post
    'Tired Retired',

    You didn't really just call Canadians - 'North' Americans!
    (This could become an International Incident!)
    Harlan,

    I can honestly say that I have been involved with SEVERAL international incidents with our Canadianicon friends. The most memorial one was while my ship was hosting one of their ship's during a visit.... well, let's just say that it took 3 days to clean up our ship's wardroom after it ended... actually I remember it got started with some dinner rolls getting thrown across the table.... I don't really remember just how it ended, but the stains from the Port Wine were the least of the problems. Of course it was never talked about, but it sure was fun! Our Canadian friends to the north are more family than friends.

    Oh, and "North Americans"??? what do ya think NORAD stands for?

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