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limpetmine No 4 1/2 and 1/3's 06-27-2009, 12:07 AM
Peter Laidler Good question Limpet and I... 06-27-2009, 05:33 AM
limpetmine Great 06-27-2009, 07:18 AM
jmoore Learned a bit o' new... 06-27-2009, 12:53 PM
Lance Well you guys beat me to it. ... 06-27-2009, 01:19 PM
limpetmine .../2, /3's 06-27-2009, 09:27 PM
krinko Here's one from the... 06-27-2009, 11:33 PM
Maxwell Smart Lance, Nice collection! ... 06-28-2009, 12:09 AM
Beerhunter I comes from the 'official'... 08-06-2010, 02:10 PM
Peter Laidler It's interesting that some of... 06-27-2009, 01:45 PM
krinko What about the conversions... 06-27-2009, 07:10 PM
Peter Laidler As for the BSA's, you're... 06-28-2009, 06:09 AM
peregrinvs KevG spotted such a beast at... 08-06-2010, 05:02 PM
Lance Thanks for the pic's Krinko! ... 06-28-2009, 08:55 AM
krinko Only too happy to supply... 06-28-2009, 01:21 PM
jona Lance, this will really drive... 06-28-2009, 10:46 PM
Peter Laidler How do you make a Mk1/3... 06-29-2009, 05:16 AM
jona It is a No.4 Mk 1* converted... 06-29-2009, 09:20 AM
Peter Laidler That wasn't converted to... 06-29-2009, 12:06 PM
spinecracker Reviving an old thread,... 08-06-2010, 12:54 PM
lucky dog I am not a photographer and... 08-06-2010, 07:10 PM
spinecracker Right, earliest date I have... 08-06-2010, 07:28 PM
Lance The FTR process to Mk 1/2 and... 08-07-2010, 07:24 AM
Lance For BSA FTR's Spinecracker, I... 08-07-2010, 07:27 AM
snorli Here's a 1949 Mk.I/2. 14748 08-08-2010, 06:27 AM
SpikeDD In reference to BSA FTR's to... 08-08-2010, 09:37 AM
spinecracker sorry, I did not clarify... 08-08-2010, 10:09 PM
Alan de Enfield As this thread seems to cover... 08-09-2010, 04:35 AM
Peter Laidler I didn't mention it in the... 08-09-2010, 06:55 AM
Thunderbox Whilst we can all imagine the... 08-09-2010, 07:08 AM
Peter Laidler Bolts were wired to the rifle... 08-09-2010, 09:28 AM
spinecracker I found a mention on Mr.... 08-10-2010, 02:02 AM
spinecracker To add to the knowledge base... 08-10-2010, 10:37 PM
SpikeDD Spinecracker, ... 08-10-2010, 11:56 PM
spinecracker Spike, Hmmm...I had... 08-11-2010, 12:36 AM
SpikeDD Spinecracker, ... 08-11-2010, 12:02 PM
spinecracker 43,344? I didn't think that... 08-11-2010, 12:59 PM
Thunderbox They probably weren't... 08-11-2010, 02:07 PM
spinecracker Thanks, Thunderbox - another... 08-11-2010, 02:21 PM
Peter Laidler I'm glad that Spinecracker... 08-11-2010, 03:53 PM
krinko Here's a typical BSA made... 08-11-2010, 05:06 PM
spinecracker And yet examples do not seem... 08-11-2010, 05:35 PM
Peter Laidler As a matter of interest, I... 08-12-2010, 06:46 AM
MJ1 This is a lot to digest and I... 08-13-2010, 02:02 PM
Peter Laidler The factory managers at... 08-13-2010, 04:13 PM
spinecracker One last question on this... 09-07-2010, 12:37 AM
rhodders I have a 1943 longbranch N04... 09-07-2010, 03:17 AM
Thunderbox Thats possibly a... 09-07-2010, 05:38 AM
Peter Laidler Rhodders, it might be me, but... 09-07-2010, 04:43 AM
Peter Laidler That's interesting... 09-07-2010, 10:51 AM
rhodders Thunderbox it was an... 09-07-2010, 02:53 PM
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    43,344? I didn't think that BSA would have been able to FTR so many rifles in 1 year. I did find a reference that stated "(p)roduction ceased at BSA-Shirley in the late 1940s, and in the mid-1950s the rifle fabrication machinery was sold to the Pakistan Ordnance Factory in Wah", so what kind of dent would this have put in BSA's ability to FTR No.4 Mk.1s to Mk.1/2 and Mk.1/3 configuration, especially as they were apparently replacing multiple parts, including the barrels? My mind is boggled.
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    Quote Originally Posted by spinecracker View Post
    43,344? I didn't think that BSA would have been able to FTR so many rifles in 1 year. I did find a reference that stated "(p)roduction ceased at BSA-Shirley in the late 1940s, and in the mid-1950s the rifle fabrication machinery was sold to the Pakistan Ordnance Factory in Wah", so what kind of dent would this have put in BSA's ability to FTR No.4 Mk.1s to Mk.1/2 and Mk.1/3 configuration, especially as they were apparently replacing multiple parts, including the barrels? My mind is boggled.
    They probably weren't manufacturing new receivers, barrels or other parts, so didn't need the full production machinery. At that time there must have been millions of existing spares available from MoD stores or from the trade, plus BSAs own stocks, plus access to the dozens of sub-contractors in the gun trade. BSA had something like a dozen plants just in the Birmingham area, plus a very large WW2 workforce to hand. I imagine the FTRs were a welcome use of spare capacity in the depressed 1950s....

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