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    Quote Originally Posted by Beerhunter View Post
    There is no doubt however that it does not benefit from the 1988 Act in terms of De-activated Weapons. For that to be the case it MUST be deactivated to the specification laid by the Home Office AND examined and be certified as such by the Gunmakers Company or the Birmingham Proof House. This is laid down in the primary legislation and there is no way around it.
    Not wanting to highjack this thread but would be gratefull for opinions as various bodies have been unable to give a clear explanation regarding status of this item.
    Please scroll to the bottom of the page to view deac info.
    These do not come with a UKicon proof house deac cert,nor do you have to be a re-enactor to buy.

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    In that case, it will again not benefit from the 1988 Act because the item specifically say that it does have a proof House Certificate.

    Next, European Directives are not Law. That directive will have had to rolled into English Law somewhere or, in my opinion, one will be relying on the European Court of Justice. Additionally, in terms of Firearms Laws, Member States are allowed to have stricter firearms laws than the EU Directives if they so wish. For example, we are not allowed to own pistols whereas the rest of the EU is.

    Finally although the 2006 Violent Crime Reduction Act specifically excludes from the definition of a “realistic imitation firearm” anything that: "is neither a de-activated firearm nor itself an antique" it does not make it clear whether or not the "de-activated firearm" MUST be one within the meaning of the 1988 Act. In other words this could be another one for the courts.

    BTW I would be interested where the ownership of a de-activated Firearm by an under 18 is prohibited by English Law.

    Finally I wonder where on earth they find people with fourteen hundred quid to spend on one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kev G View Post
    Not wanting to highjack this thread but would be gratefull for opinions as various bodies have been unable to give a clear explanation regarding status of this item.
    Please scroll to the bottom of the page to view deac info.
    These do not come with a UKicon proof house deac cert,nor do you have to be a re-enactor to buy.
    Whilst I make no claims to professional expertise, it's my understanding that these exploit a legal loophole whereby if it is *made* in the factory as a deact then the regs regarding previously functional firearms rendered deactivated do not apply. I.e. it has *never* been a functional firearm in the first place. I have a vague recollection that there are a few similar 'factory deactivated' L85A1 assault rifles about that have non-welded actions.

    I know Rusmilitary have been selling these for a few years and I assume that if they were doing something blatantly illegal, it would have been dealt with by now.

    Happy to be corrected, etc.

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    Here are 3 No. 4 Skeleton Actions. The ATF is ambivalent about the original short barrels. Sometimes they are ok, other times not ok. Replaced mine with full length barrels and saved the originals just to be safe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jona View Post
    Here are 3 No. 4 Skeleton Actions. The ATF is ambivalent about the original short barrels. Sometimes they are ok, other times not ok. Replaced mine with full length barrels and saved the originals just to be safe.
    Jona, whats the name of the type of board you use to display your items on. I'm after similar but cant find a name to search for. Cheers, Chris.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brit plumber View Post
    Jona, whats the name of the type of board you use to display your items on. I'm after similar but cant find a name to search for. Cheers, Chris.
    Over here it's called pegboard.

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