Back in the old days i used to use lyman 439186 bullets unsized, cast soft and they'd shoot good with about 80 grains FFG blackpowder.Of course you'd have to clean every five shots if you didn't want to have the bullets go everyplace. I found some smokeless loads no good-like the one quoted in cartridges of the world(35 grins 3031).What a joke, fire gun, hear primer go off and bullet poops out at muzzle, powder doesn't go off.New lazy way to slug barel? I built a new shooter only from a package of three from SOG's junk, now i 'm thinking of selling it,if anyone is interested in it email me cagunsmith@aol.com