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Just a thought but the No8 user handbook is a very comprehensive booklet and full of detail. Maybe you (and everyone who owns a No8.....) ought to get hold of a copy of it for their library or just a bit of good reading.
It's dated 1952 and has been updated a couple of times. In fact, it's one of my claims to infamy as I oversaw the (possibly) last revamp of the booklet.
Does anyone know anyone - or does anyone out there in forumland have copies of the latest No8 handbook for sale? While we're on about it, do you still have the EMER Skippy or Tankie?
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03-08-2011 03:44 PM
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I have a '52 dated copy that I should be able to locate within a week or so....
Happy to scan it & upload it to somewhere suitable, if that's of any use?
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The one on this website is in the link below
https://www.milsurps.com/content.php...-Service-1961)
I will test the No.8 on the Thursday night at the range
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Originally Posted by
DanL96a1
I have packed out the cork shim with another piece, and placed it around the front sling swivel this seems to have fixed the movement of the barrel, and when the stock is re-seated to the rifle and done up tight, this allows for the bolt to engage the sear and thus fire.
DanL96a1
It is surely the wood that is moving, not the barrel. It sounds to me as if the fore-end wood is not properly located in the front of the buttstock socket - if that is the correct term. Assuming that the trigger guard screw is done up correctly, by packing out around the front sling swivel you are effectively pushing the front end of the wood down so that it pivots on the trigger guard screw and the back end of the wood comes up, and then your trigger mechanism engages properly.
If I am correct, the problem is the fit of the wood at the back end*, and you are correcting for this at the front end. In the process, your are creating an upward pressure on the barrel. The barrel is no longer free-floating. I have looked at both my No. 8s. The system sits neatly in the cut-out in the wood, without any rocking, and the barrel is floating in both cases.
DanL96a1, perhaps you need to shim the wood at the back end, below*, not at the front end, on top.
Peter, does that make sense to you, or am I just confused?
Patrick
*I.e. Skiprat is basically right - the wood/guard assembly is down at the back, and is fouling the trigger mechanism
Last edited by Patrick Chadwick; 03-09-2011 at 04:36 AM.
Reason: * added
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Patrick thanks you your comments I have had another look at the rifle and the forend is touching the wood, all the way along the forend (like a No.4 T). But as there is some cork at the front of the foreend seated in the barrel grove, which is keeping the barrel off the woodwork. When the cork is removed and the woodwork is fitted, there is no movement up/down (a rocking motion) as the trigger screw is done up tight. But this mean the trigger problem occurs, when the cork is added and woodwork fitted again trigger screw done up tight, with the space that the cork brings the triggers let off is correct. Is the No.8 you have free floating barrels like the Envoy / L42?
Last edited by DanL96a1; 03-12-2011 at 02:49 PM.
Reason: spelling mistake
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I have excellent reprints dated 1961 and 1970. Is 1970 the last revision Peter?
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Originally Posted by
DanL96a1
Is the No.8 you have free floating barrels like the Envoy / L42?
Yes, both of them, and I think your rifle has been fudged at the front to compensate for what is really a wood fitting problem at the back.
Patrick
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Patrick, Peter and All thank you for all your help and advice with my No.8, I have taken another look at the No.8 and I have repacked the front end to compensate for the rear end!! I would have a go at the woodwork, but don’t feel confident enough to hack away at the bedding of the foreend as it is the only one I have… keen armatures and all that!!
I have refitted the forend with the new packing piece, and I have tested the trigger let off and all is perfect. I will give it a go at the range on the Thursday night, to see how she performs. I will post the results of the test. Watch this space …..
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Am I missing something in the translation DanL but you say, and I quote..
I have had another look at the rifle and the forend is touching the wood, all the way along the forend'
Now I'm TOTALLY confused..................
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The barrel should be floating not packed with anything. If you can't relieve it, new, original forends are available over there at EFD.
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