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    Quote Originally Posted by Patrick Chadwick View Post
    My advice to all: get yourself an Arisakaicon, a Carcano, and a Schmidt-Rubin NOW.

    OK, so what do I know?

    If you think: nothing much - then ignore this advice, print out this post, stick it in a draw, take it out in 5 years time, and then kick yourself.

    As I mentioned somewhere else on these forums, for each of my rifles I have a folder with purchase/registration details, chambering standards, loading information, test targets - and prices actually achieved in recent auctions for examples in a comparable condition. And from this I can see that over 2 years the prices have doubled-trebled for comparable Arisakas, nearly doubled for Carcanos, and are just beginning to show a noticeable rise for Schmidt-Rubins.

    I keep these folders up-to-date for the benefit of whoever inherits my rifles. Like many others, having looked through truckloads of wall-hanger quality to find a good-shooting example of a type in original configuration, I am not going to part with it as long as I can still shoot. This attitude, multiplied by the number of serious shooters and collectors around the world, means that if you want to get a 1st class shooting example of "the big 5", you will find that as a collector, you have to be rich - and as a competition shooter, you have to be rich and wait for someone to give up shooting.

    So, slowly but increasingly, those looking for the nearly impossible, such as a match-grade 1903-A3, are beginning to look at the possible - hitherto neglected rifles in a moderate price range, usually in original configuration, not frequently falsified with fake markings (because it doesn't pay) and, in short, still very good value for the money.

    Like I say, look again in 5 years, and see if I'm right! But please don't then start writing moaning posts on the lines of "I can remember seeing Arisakas/ Carcanos/ Schmidt-Rubins for a 100 or so, and wish I'd bought one". Rather look in your gun cabinet and be pleased that you did!

    Patrick
    Had a Finn M91 stumbled across Arisaka ,M44 Nagant . 1918 SMLE no1 MK 3 in a four for one sale.Thanks to Blackcat I now have to find a Carcano. Plan to get a CMPicon Garandicon soon. Dont know much about a Schmit-Rubin (will research) a Mauser would be nice. I have little interest in appreciation in value as anything I obtain will be passed on with all the history I can collect to my nephews in the hopes they will appreciate them and the history they represent. My new way of rationalizing a purchase, does not look like our money is going to be worth much soon due to inflation, buy old guns!
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    Quote Originally Posted by HOOKED ON HISTORY View Post
    anything I obtain will be passed on with all the history I can collect to my nephews in the hopes they will appreciate them

    Which is a good reason to have those folders. So they can appreciate the stuff - or at least sell it for a fair price!


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    Quote Originally Posted by HOOKED ON HISTORY View Post
    Had a Finn M91 stumbled across Arisakaicon ,M44 Nagant . 1918 SMLE no1 MK 3 in a four for one sale.Thanks to Blackcat I now have to find a Carcano. Plan to get a CMPicon Garandicon soon. Dont know much about a Schmit-Rubin (will research) a Mauser would be nice. I have little interest in appreciation in value as anything I obtain will be passed on with all the history I can collect to my nephews in the hopes they will appreciate them and the history they represent. My new way of rationalizing a purchase, does not look like our money is going to be worth much soon due to inflation, buy old guns!
    ...always I'm guilty... Anyway it's a good choise!

    What a good matter to have a collection!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Patrick Chadwick View Post
    Which is a good reason to have those folders. So they can appreciate the stuff - or at least sell it for a fair price!
    Ooooh yessss! ...for love or for business. I wish they'll choose the first one

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackcat_attilio View Post
    Ooooh yessss! ...for love or for business. I wish they'll choose the first one
    It is my mission to instill as much apprecianion for history in each of them as I can in hopes that my collection will stay in the family. My most treasured possetions are the few items photos,discharge papers,gear etc..from WW1 and WW2 that belonged to my grandfathers and father. They remind me of their determination along with others of that era to pass on to me a safer/ better world than the one which they inhabited. I only wish more people felt this way and perhaps we would not be in the mess we find ourselves in now. Here we have someone in Germanyicon,Italyicon and USAicon discussing a shared intrest. Reminds me of a segment from Band of Brothers were one of the 101st vets was interviewed and spoke of how in other circumstances he and the Germans he was fighting agains might have a shared intrest in hunting or fishing an be good friends. Very touching. Very true.

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