Wonky Enforcer engravings

[PrinzEugen]

And returning to the original issue re the markings which have been called into question - do people think that the very late enforcer engravings may indeed have been a bit wonky? There have been quite a few posted on this forum, and as I mentioned in the op - even reproduced in reference books as examples.

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[Thunderbox]

And returning to the original issue re the markings which have been called into question - do people think that the very late enforcer engravings may indeed have been a bit wonky? There have been quite a few posted on this forum, and as I mentioned in the op - even reproduced in reference books as examples.

Its not just the wonky engraving; most of the "wonky" Enforcers diverge in many of the minor detail features and marks found on undisputed early/low-number rifles. Wood markings, consistency between markings, finish on metal parts, positioning and alignment of front PF pad, forend fit, etc - small things add up when you compare the rifles side-by-side.

[Gnr527]

This whole Enforcer business is a puzzle.

The question of fakes in Enfields is in itself interesting but, with the large (genuine) production runs of most variants, resolving questions of fakery is often extremely difficult.

However, with the limited number of Enforcers (legit/illegit), and the fact that they are fairly recent, it ought to be easier to clarify a lot of the issues.

I suspect Peter considers Enforcers to be a form of lowlife of only passing interest but Mark Stevens has done a lot of research into them as has Alan de Enfield. Alan has mentioned producing a book on the subject -
Facts/suppositions on:-
Numbers ?
Assembled by ?
Destroyed and by ???
Supposedly destroyed but still in existence ??? - I think I have one
Sights ?
Scopes ?
Numbering ? with photos of types - to metal and wood
etc
etc

Comments Mark/Alan?

I imagine there might not be a better time or forum to help

John

[crocket]

Hi, I am new to this site and have Enforcer parts that have been in my stores for quite a few years. I believe some of these actions, barrels, wood work and other parts may (originally ) have come from Charnwood's ? These Enforcer parts were most probably going to be scrapped as they had little value. One of the actions originally from Longbranch and was labelled "not to be used". Some of the engravings are slightly off square and one has the "e" missing, so it reads "ENFORC R". A couple of the complete actions have matching numbered bolts and the X19T engraved on them, on the handle and bolt heads. I hope this info is of some use.

[Alan de Enfield]

Hi, I am new to this site and have Enforcer parts that have been in my stores for quite a few years. I believe some of these actions, barrels, wood work and other parts may (originally ) have come from Charnwood's ? These Enforcer parts were most probably going to be scrapped as they had little value. One of the actions originally from Longbranch and was labelled "not to be used". Some of the engravings are slightly off square and one has the "e" missing, so it reads "ENFORC R". A couple of the complete actions have matching numbered bolts and the X19T engraved on them, on the handle and bolt heads. I hope this info is of some use.

Welcome Crocket - we have spoken many times re the Enforcer parts.
Did the Owner of the L39 you had on consignment ever decide on dropping the price to a Realistic level ? (If I remember it was the one marked 'CON' )

[crocket]

I thought this site was going to be a knowledge based thing, not a slanging match, over and out.

[Alan de Enfield]

I thought this site was going to be a knowledge based thing, not a slanging match, over and out.

You have provided me with some useful Enforcer information in the past - dont be too hasty in departing the forum as I'm sure there is more you can tell us as you 'clear out the back room' or Enforcer 'oddities'.

If I remember correctly this was your Longbranch Enforcer action ???