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    Quote Originally Posted by jmoore View Post
    "11,?? Obsobottleneckpaperpatchthing" .
    Looks like it could be a .43 Spanish Remington.

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    Veeery nice Patrick. Pardon my ignorance but an 1861 Enfield is a Snider?
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    Sinder internals

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveN View Post
    Pardon my ignorance but an 1861 Enfield is a Snider?
    Who said it was an 1861 Enfield? One must be careful - the lock is marked 1861, but that is the lock date, not the date of the rifle as a whole. It was like this...

    ...Towards the end of the American Civil War, the Henry and Sharps rifles had shown that the future belonged with cartridge-fed rifles. The Snider, Allin conversion, etc. were all "quick fixes" introduced to extend the service life of the huge stocks of muzzle-loaders. So from 1866 on the Sniders were produced by converting the 1853 and other muzzle-loader Enfields.

    Bill Curtis, on the Britishicon Militaria forum, has revealed to me that this rifle has not only an 1861 lock, but a Pattern 1853 stock. I.e. it is definitely a conversion of an 1861-vintage P53.



    In fact, it may have been converted twice - first to Snider I and then, in 1870, to Snider III. No-one can now possibly say why, but from the general excellent condition I suspect that someone wanted to keep that beautiful stock on his rifle. Just look at the inside, and compare with the typical Eastern block relic!





    A lock that looks like it just came out of the factory.



    A barrel channel that is almost polished* - you can see the tiger stripes in the channel!


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    *it has not been smoothed down at a later time, but was made so well at the outset - the acceptance mark is clearly legible in the channel, but my camera cannot pick it out.
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    Thanks again Patrick.

    I found myself at the book store with my nose embedded in of all things a book on firearms, like go figure right. Any ways I found out what a Snider was, that cartridge thing you talked about.

    It (the book) was a brief description, and your answer was more the history that I was looking for.

    thanks again ~dave
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