What is your dream milsurp?

[stencollector]

If the receiver's brand new, not a reweld it would probably be importable...

Bad news guys. I got info today that the receivers in question on the other thread are in fact rewelds. Oh well, back to the wishing well for another try.

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[Klunk]

Bad news guys. I got info today that the receivers in question on the other thread are in fact rewelds. Oh well, back to the wishing well for another try.

I thought that would automatically make them 'machine guns' in the US???

DOnt they HAVE to have a new made reciever to be considered legit, non classIII guns?

WHat about the RP whatchamacalit with the pan?
Or the semi only PPSh
Or the semi only PK (Yum)
Or the semi only RPD (double yum)

[Dimitri]

I thought that would automatically make them 'machine guns' in the US???

DOnt they HAVE to have a new made reciever to be considered legit, non classIII guns?

WHat about the RP whatchamacalit with the pan?
Or the semi only PPSh
Or the semi only PK (Yum)
Or the semi only RPD (double yum)

Klunk,

The ATF considers the Mag well the "receiver" so they can reweld them all they want with new magwells. While in Canada ANY part of the reciever would be considered a Converted Auto if I understand correctly.

Dimitri

[Stevo]

I don't know about that Dimitri. When the receiver is cut, it ceases to be a Bren receiver. When the new gun is assembled, they're just parts used in the manufacture. Who knows though.

It's quite a ridiculous situation. In the Czech Republic two (2) different manufacturers just happen to find hundreds of receivers for select fire rifles and "newly build" up two different rifles, the VZ58S and CZ858. These receivers are exactly the same as the select fire VZ58 with minor mods. This is all perfectly okay somehow because the receivers were never part of complete rifles (which I don't believe for a minute).

What we need to do is find Bren receivers that were never assembled into complete MG's. Then, as per the VZ/CZ, they would just need trigger group mods to make them perfectly legal. Of course, they'd be virtually identical to the CA Brens that no one can shoot, but through the amazing power of semantics, they'd be legal.

[Claven2]

I don't know about that Dimitri. When the receiver is cut, it ceases to be a Bren receiver. When the new gun is assembled, they're just parts used in the manufacture. Who knows though.

It's quite a ridiculous situation. In the Czech Republic two (2) different manufacturers just happen to find hundreds of receivers for select fire rifles and "newly build" up two different rifles, the VZ58S and CZ858. These receivers are exactly the same as the select fire VZ58 with minor mods. This is all perfectly okay somehow because the receivers were never part of complete rifles (which I don't believe for a minute).

What we need to do is find Bren receivers that were never assembled into complete MG's. Then, as per the VZ/CZ, they would just need trigger group mods to make them perfectly legal. Of course, they'd be virtually identical to the CA Brens that no one can shoot, but through the amazing power of semantics, they'd be legal.

Well, considering the same Czech factories that make the VZ58 also made the ZB-37 (ie, Czech precursor to the Bren), that's not entirely outside the realm of possibility. Maybe the RCMP lab would buy the same fishing story twice???

PS: I LOVE my C/A VZ....

[Klunk]

PS: I LOVE my C/A VZ....

Uhhh...which/what ZB/VZ do you have???

Pictures damnit....PICTURES

[Claven2]

Uhhh...which/what ZB/VZ do you have???

Pictures damnit....PICTURES

I was being facetious... I'm referring to my VZ-58S which was "never assembled into a rifle" in Czechoslovakia. Yeah... sure it wasn't. The military just proof fired unassembled receivers, serialized them, stamped them with proof firing marks, acceptance stamps, etc. and then kept thousands lying around never assembled during the cold war.

Perfectly plausible.

But it the Czech gov't swears an oath that it was an unfinished receiver, well that's good enough for the Liberal dominated RCMP. Wankers.

Not that I'm complaining, but it shows the hypocrisy...

[campperrykid]

One impossible dream : I'd like to get back the first "pre-ban " rifle that I ever owned . It was a #4 Enfield , still in the FTR grease when I got it. I sold it years later , cleaned up --but still in as issued condition. It must have come to the US just before GCA 68 banned military rifle imports.
The second impossible dream , turned into reality: I wanted a VZ58 and had completely given up hope . The OOW US builds were too spendy and the Canadian VZ58's couldn't be imported. The almost 2 years ago the AK forum (.net) started a double group buy: 2 different companies a few months apart.

Well, considering the same Czech factories that make the VZ58 also made the ZB-37 (ie, Czech precursor to the Bren), that's not entirely outside the realm of possibility. Maybe the RCMP lab would buy the same fishing story twice???

PS: I LOVE my C/A VZ....

I coveted one of those for a long time.
The Canadians can get some goodies that we can't. And vise versa. I still want an Italian made Garand with the Dane crest.

[gunner]

I have one more. But for that i need Harlan`s help. I love that warbird but i am not a pilot!!!

Regards

Gunner