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Not ALL of the site members live in areas that ALLOW centre-fire semi-auto rifles!
Quite a few folk in the UK
have AR15's - but they are made as single shot: no gas tube/piston system - have to be manually cycled for each round - similar to a traditional bolt action.
A .22 upper/dedicated rifle IS allowed here
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03-15-2012 08:37 AM
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Originally Posted by
saddler
Quite a few folk in the
UK
have AR15's - but they are made as single shot: no gas tube/piston system - have to be manually cycled for each round - similar to a traditional bolt action.
And in a country who brought us the SMLE.I feel for you folks. Coming to a country near you! Makes me think of a quote from William Wallace (or Mel Gibson) FREEEEDOMMMMM!
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So you qualified expert on shooting a 22. Would that have helped you if you would have had to go to combat right after? Oh I guess they could have handed you a ballistic chart. 
PS Thank you for your service.
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I'm starting to wonder how long we have until we have those same gun law's. If people are not noticing our liberties dwindling away, well then their blind
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the Air Force is smart they send their officers out to fight and they don't us M-16s. They have a slightly larger caliber found. BTW I was Army.
Lackland was the giveaway for the Air Force.
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Originally Posted by
JerryB08
I'm starting to wonder how long we have until we have those same gun law's. If people are not noticing our liberties dwindling away, well then their blind
And Dumb!
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Originally Posted by
JerryB08
So you qualified expert on shooting a 22. Would that have helped you if you would have had to go to combat right after? Oh I guess they could have handed you a ballistic chart.
I suppose I learned how to aim and how the AR worked and how to hit a man shaped target at 100yds in really cold weather. But to fulfill a DOD requirement is all it was good for.

Originally Posted by
gijills
the Air Force is smart they send their officers out to fight and they don't us M-16s. They have a slightly larger caliber found. BTW I was Army.
Lackland was the giveaway for the Air Force.
I guess Lackland was Army at one time and I'm not sure what you mean by slightly larger caliber found? I lived off base and shared a house with 4 soldiers from FT Carson, Co. This AF firefighter was an Ulta light sleeper and those Grunts could sleep through an artillery barrage I'm just saying. I'm still in touch with one after 30 years. Good times good memory's.
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It just saddens me to hear the Aussies and Britts lament their loss of freedom and I applaud their pursuit of the hobby in spite of the burden. I did not know I was anywhere close to violating the rules. Sorry.
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Originally Posted by
nhetzer
That's EXACTLY what I mean. That's why the military stopped "training" with .22's after WWII. Turns out .22 was nothing at all like 30-06. Huh. Imagine that. Having said that piece of sarcasm ; ) ........ .22's are loads of fun and of course cheap to shoot. But I can pick up a nice Winchester for a fraction of the price of something on an AR platform. I guess if you absolutely love all things .22 then go for it! Lord knows I've spent more money on things that I'm sure I would be ridiculed for. Like my cat sweater collection. Kidding.... Kidding.....
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Originally Posted by
JerryB08
So you qualified expert on shooting a 22. Would that have helped you if you would have had to go to combat right after? Oh I guess they could have handed you a ballistic chart.
PS Thank you for your service.
Color me stupid here, but don't the armed forces now train with blanks and "laser tag" gear strapped to their rifles? Never mind simulators like F.A.T.S. And if you confuse the ballistic curve of a .22 with a 5,56, 9mm, or .45, you aren't apt to to do well in other training scenarios either...
I believe one major reason I won so many matches at Ft. Benning was partly due to the mass quantities of .22rf rounds I sent downrange before the matches. Transitioning between calbers is probably beneficial, as the rimfire lets you run to the ragged edge of sight reaquistion. When forced to allow for the longer recovery time of the larger caliber, it feels like you have all the time in the world to get a good sight picture whilst riding the rifle down back onto the target.
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