Gunbroker auction. Considered and decided to ask a question about this one.

[Badger]

Without seeing a pic of the back of the sight it's almost impossible to tell if it's a correct P14(F) adjustment sight. It has correct vertical lines on the adjustment knob, but that's all I can see in the seller's pics.

Here's two entries in the MKL for P14 sniper rifles. Both have a comment article in the Collector's Comments and Feedback section by Advisory Panel member Nigel Greenaway, where he discusses the P14(F) sights.

Regards,
Doug

No.3 MkI* (T) Rifle (BSA Scope) - (Pattern 1914 Mk1* W (T) Sniper Rifle)

No.3 MkI* (T) Rifle (PP Scope) - (Pattern 1914 Mk1* W (T) Sniper Rifle)

1. In reference to the special aperture rear sight with fine adjustment screw on the top, they were all Winchester made and converted by the British. All had the original Winchester rifle serial number on the back (as per unconverted Winchester sights). If Serial No. is barred out, it means that sights were taken off rifles, converted at Enfield, and then the sights were sent to WW1 sniping schools to retro fit on existing rifles at the school. If Serial No. is not barred out, then the same conversion process occurred, but the sight was put back on the original rifle held at Enfield. From the 30 or so that I have seen the ratio of barred out to not barred is 70:30

The giveaway on the fakes is a slightly larger adjustment knob with cross checkering. Real ones like the one mounted on the rifle which is the subject of this Knowledge Library entry (see pics below), have vertical lines on the knob.

P14(F) Authentic Sights
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P14(F) Reproduction Sights
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It took a while to search through a large ammo tin holding about 5000 P14 and M1917 rear sights but by the law of averages I thought I would find a few P14(F). Found about 20 and another ten or so turned up later. Sold most to friends and we formed a P14(F) team. Only got one spare left. You can get your elevation dead on so hitting Fig 14 Huns Heads at 400 yards was easy! ....... (Feedback by "Nigel Greenaway")

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[jmoore]

Just a question that needs asking. Regarding the number on the sight leaf........., are these a rifle number that would match a P'14 rifle somewhere or are they just a sight/mating/works or similar number such as that seen on the mating parts of a PH5 for example?

In reference to the special aperture rear sight with fine adjustment screw on the top, they were all Winchester made and converted by the British. All had the original Winchester rifle serial number on the back (as per unconverted Winchester sights). If Serial No. is barred out, it means that sights were taken off rifles, converted at Enfield, and then the sights were sent to WW1 sniping schools to retro fit on existing rifles at the school. If Serial No. is not barred out, then the same conversion process occurred, but the sight was put back on the original rifle held at Enfield. From the 30 or so that I have seen the ratio of barred out to not barred is 70:30 The giveaway on the fakes is a slightly larger adjustment knob with cross checkering. Real ones like the one mounted on the rifle which is the subject of this Knowledge Library entry (see pics below), have vertical lines on the knob...

(Feedback by "Nigel Greenaway")

Here's the exerpt of the excerpt from Post #9.