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    Why? Because they know that so many shooters will buy the cheapest ammo they can find. All of the steel cased ammo for sale here commercially is made in Russiaicon. Their quality control leaves a lot to be desired to say the least. Something happens to your firearm? They don't care as try to get something out of them,good luck with that. They are in Russia half a world away and if you want satisfaction you would have to go there and try to get the Russian courts to go along with you. 7.62x39 is for AK's and the SKS. They were designed from the start for steel case. No USGI firearm was designed for steel cased ammo. Can it be used in those firearms? Sure it can but you have to remember that in the vast majority of firearms it's real dirty ammo.Steel does not seal the chamber well at all like brass cased ammo does. It's not in general as accurate as normal brass case ammo and you get what you pay for. In a military bolt rifle the use of steel will not be too bad as the extractor is large and strong but don't expect to get the best out of your rifle using it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skip View Post
    Why would any decent ammo producer provde ammo that would damage a firearm and expect to remain in business. Shoot it and enjoy.
    That question can be answered easily enough, a quick buck. In that the ammo is from Russiaicon and not China, it is a little more reputable to me but not by much. Thus the question I asked.

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    Bruce,

    That's pretty much what I figured. Had I been buying ammo for an SKS I wouldn't be as concerned but with my FR-8 being like new, the last thing I want to do is screw it up to save a couple of buck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bruce McAskill View Post
    . No USGI firearm was designed for steel cased ammo. Can it be used in those firearms? Sure it can but you have to remember that in the vast majority of firearms it's real dirty ammo.Steel does not seal the chamber well at all like brass cased ammo does.

    I suspect Mosin Nagants weren't designed for the steel cased 7,62x54r ammo. But both they and SVTs seem to work fine with either. The inherent problem with steel cases is that they are harder on tooling and require more powerful presses to form. Also not as corrosion resistant. In the specific examples of 5,56 and 7,62x51 cartridges there may be the added problem of less springback in the fired cases, which have less taper than usual in the body. So extraction forces can be higher in semi- and full auto weapons.

    There's no particular reason steel cased ammo can't be as clean and as accurate as brass cased ammo. Powder selection, priming compounds, quality of the projectiles and care in building up the ammo are more important factors. Which are well down the priority list when making rounds as cheaply as possible!

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