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jmoore Bullet Casting Woes 04-23-2013, 05:17 AM
Patrick Chadwick Broke one - and repaired it 04-23-2013, 01:10 PM
jimb16 I use wheel weights all the... 04-23-2013, 07:19 PM
jmoore Fortunately, it doesn't seem... 04-24-2013, 12:57 AM
Patrick Chadwick Do it. The steel is... 04-24-2013, 01:39 AM
villiers My problem is getting each... 04-24-2013, 02:40 AM
jmoore This pair appears to be cast... 04-24-2013, 03:17 AM
JasonA Casting issues 04-24-2013, 04:02 PM
jmoore Have lurked on that site... 04-25-2013, 12:28 AM
jmoore Some progress. From this:... 04-26-2013, 06:45 PM
villiers Just two further queries ....... 04-27-2013, 04:06 AM
Patrick Chadwick If you sent him a Cerrosafe... 04-27-2013, 05:25 AM
villiers Ok ... thanx Patrick. The old... 04-27-2013, 08:49 AM
Patrick Chadwick So do I. For the very same... 04-27-2013, 03:10 PM
jmoore I think that continuing to... 04-27-2013, 04:05 PM
jmoore Here's an odd question: Do... 04-29-2013, 03:32 AM
villiers This whole casting business... 04-29-2013, 09:47 AM
jmoore At this point, could it be... 04-29-2013, 09:59 AM
villiers I expect, at this point, it... 04-30-2013, 10:07 AM
Patrick Chadwick Patrick, I don't see (yet!)... 04-30-2013, 04:59 PM
gsimmons When throwing the duds back... 04-29-2013, 06:11 PM
jmoore Managed to cast bullets with... 04-30-2013, 11:04 PM
Patrick Chadwick Another argument against... 05-01-2013, 01:48 AM
jmoore Oddly, even though the... 05-01-2013, 02:21 AM
Patrick Chadwick Have you tried the Hornady... 05-06-2013, 12:42 PM
jmoore Have two boxes just for said... 05-07-2013, 12:46 AM
jmoore Couldn't find it, so bought a... 05-16-2013, 05:08 AM
jmoore Yee hah! Bullet mould handles... 05-06-2013, 04:57 AM
jmoore A decent casting session with... 05-16-2013, 09:36 AM
jmoore Reading some of the new... 05-20-2013, 11:54 AM
Patrick Chadwick It's a custom mould made by a... 05-20-2013, 01:31 PM
jmoore Photos of .43 Spanish bullets... 05-24-2013, 06:42 PM
Patrick Chadwick Interesting that the void in... 05-25-2013, 01:39 AM
villiers Looks like that mucky load of... 05-25-2013, 03:34 AM
jmoore Actually, after a brief run... 05-27-2013, 12:39 AM
villiers Good idea to clean the old... 05-27-2013, 03:21 AM
jmoore Appropriately, being this is... 05-27-2013, 05:04 AM
villiers Yes, I agree. It´s trying to... 05-27-2013, 02:44 PM
jmoore Remember that bucket of mud... 05-31-2013, 07:05 PM
villiers That target shows better than... 06-01-2013, 04:25 AM
jmoore No, but it's good enough to... 06-03-2013, 12:38 AM
villiers Am coming to the conclusion... 06-03-2013, 04:17 AM
jmoore Swaged pure lead bullets were... 06-04-2013, 03:00 AM
jmoore Dad-gummed capitalist swine!... 06-06-2013, 05:17 AM
villiers And to add to all the general... 06-04-2013, 04:22 AM
gsimmons Villiers there are people in... 06-04-2013, 07:45 AM
jmoore So what exactly is the bore... 06-04-2013, 08:39 AM
oldpaul I purchased these from... 06-04-2013, 01:45 PM
Patrick Chadwick Take a look at the Johannsen... 06-04-2013, 06:42 PM
jmoore Help me out here! Roughly... 06-05-2013, 12:46 AM
jmoore :confused: And this bit was... 06-05-2013, 05:12 AM
Patrick Chadwick Page 96 for Lee and p.100 for... 06-05-2013, 04:12 AM
villiers I´ll try and make exact... 06-05-2013, 04:50 AM
Patrick Chadwick That's why I go for "armory... 06-05-2013, 06:08 PM
Patrick Chadwick Total confusion - now sorted... 06-05-2013, 06:48 AM
villiers I always wanted to try my... 06-05-2013, 01:26 PM
Patrick Chadwick And did you believe him? 06-05-2013, 02:32 PM
villiers That was the basis of... 06-06-2013, 02:52 AM
villiers Would it be that difficult to... 06-06-2013, 10:07 AM
jmoore "Handles" referring to the... 06-07-2013, 12:43 AM
jmoore What's this "we're" comment?... 06-07-2013, 12:58 PM
villiers "What's this "we're" comment?... 06-07-2013, 02:36 PM
villiers Maybe we´re just too... 06-07-2013, 05:36 AM
jmoore Discovered that soft swaged... 06-10-2013, 03:08 AM
villiers 200! I´ve still got about 20... 06-10-2013, 07:04 AM
jmoore The larger expander ball... 06-12-2013, 05:16 AM
Patrick Chadwick I have a tool that might do... 06-12-2013, 07:54 PM
vintage hunter Do it look something like... 06-13-2013, 12:08 AM
vintage hunter Gave Patrick's theory a try... 06-13-2013, 12:50 AM
jmoore :dancingbanana: So what... 06-13-2013, 02:34 AM
Patrick Chadwick Yep, that's the gadget - I... 06-13-2013, 02:24 PM
jmoore Welllll...The larger expander... 06-14-2013, 04:16 PM
jmoore (See Post #64) Some recovered... 06-14-2013, 05:32 PM
Patrick Chadwick I'm not enough of a... 06-14-2013, 05:51 PM
villiers Those pics would seem to... 06-15-2013, 02:49 AM
jmoore Mmmm, a guarded "yes". But... 06-15-2013, 08:41 AM
Patrick Chadwick Yep, either will do. It was... 06-15-2013, 09:47 AM
Patrick Chadwick OK, just a hypothesis, but do... 06-16-2013, 07:29 PM
jmoore In the short term, yes. And... 06-17-2013, 02:57 AM
villiers Mine came out crisper when I... 06-17-2013, 04:16 AM
jmoore Had done that during the... 06-17-2013, 05:13 AM
jmoore One of the "overseers" of... 06-18-2013, 08:43 AM
Patrick Chadwick If it's like the redstarts in... 06-30-2013, 03:08 PM
jmoore The little brown bird family... 07-01-2013, 12:50 AM
jmoore Found an ingot of hard lead... 06-29-2013, 08:41 AM
villiers Am still just inches from... 06-30-2013, 02:20 PM
jmoore Some developments: 1:... 07-12-2013, 08:23 PM
jmoore Found some (500) hard cast... 07-13-2013, 03:12 PM
jmoore .44 and .30 caliber gas... 07-19-2013, 09:00 AM
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    Just two further queries .... I cast bullets from a Hensold mould made to a Serrosafe casting of the barrel, chamber and muzzle end. If I used a sizer, would it change the calibre so that it no longer suited my specific barrel? And secondly, if I load the original amount of BP, there´s no space left for lube under the bullet. Even using a bit less powder, the bullet compresses the powder ... or ... the round comes out too long and the breechblock won´t close on the base of the cartridge. Should I use a compression die to get all the powder into the cartridge?
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    Quote Originally Posted by villiers View Post
    I cast bullets from a Hensold mould made to a Serrosafe casting of the barrel, chamber and muzzle end.
    If you sent him a Cerrosafe casting, Hensold will have made the mould so that the cast bullet is correct without sizing. Ask him if you are not sure.

    Quote Originally Posted by villiers View Post
    If I used a sizer, would it change the calibre so that it no longer suited my specific barrel?
    If you size down any more than a thou or so (i.e. just enough to smooth the surface) then the bullet will be a trifle undersized. But soft-lead bullets can bump up several thou to fit a bore, so the diameter is not nearly as critical as for jacketed bullets. You should be using something like max. 5% tin in a tin-lead alloy. Anything higher is an expensive waste of tin, anything with type metal is instantly too hard, and anything with wheelweights is unpredictable scrap. Lead flashing (i.e. roofing lead) with 8% eutectic (electronics) solder added is a simple answer that provides consistent performance. Your bullets should (almost) all cast out at about plus/minus 2gn of the average value. Anything outside that range should go back into the pot as having voids, lumps of slag etc. Then classify the bullets into two classes, each with a spread of 2gn. For a long-range competition you can select classes with a spread of 1gn, but I doubt that you will see any significant difference at 100 meters.

    Quote Originally Posted by villiers View Post
    Should I use a compression die to get all the powder into the cartridge?
    No, compression seems to make the vivacity inconsistent. Just adapt the amount of BP to what you can get in as a charge when the powder is well shaken down. You must have the lubricant, with an amount as I explained in a previous post. The original "service" charge is effectively a theoretical maximum.
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