Savage No. 4 (T) Scopeless stamps?

[Brian Dick]

The examiner's marks will only be found on rifles that were completed with a telescope at H&H. They are in the same place as normal BSA produced rifles. On the top of the butt socket.

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[wotter]

Hello guys,
Information is much appreciated.

I checked out the '1942 No.4 Mk1*(T) Savage Sniper Rifle (less scope)' link, but I didn't read anything about what sort of stamps should be on a scopeless.
I may just have missed it.
However the pictures indicate that the 'T' and 'TR' are missing.
(The rest of the article gets confusing because it has a section on how to spot a 'Fake' No4 (T) which is a different beast altogether.)
Mention is made of Savage rifles being re-barreled with British made 5 groove barrels.
That sounds strange as I thought H&H rejected anything out of speck.
And if a rifle was chosen as having sniper potential, changing the barrel would be strange.

Skennerton does have the "The No.4T, An Armourer's Perspective" by Peter Laidler.
I got one from him last week; a terrific read.
Peter and Ian, I thoroughly enjoyed the way it was written.

In summary, am I right in thinking that:
- H&H had a some Savage rifles on hand during the No4 (T) conversion period from Nov '42 to April 46,
- Most or all of these Savages were Mk1 (not Mk1*)
- A few Savage rifles were fully converted by H&H when they ran low on other stocks of rifles.
- Some/most of the remaining Savage rifles had been fitted with scope pads and maybe cheek rests.
- These were handed over at end of contract and put into stores. (page 229. The L.E. book)

Does that sound about right?
(I'm one of those blokes who need it spelt out in 20 words or less, otherwise it all gets a bit confusing ;-)

[Surpmil]

The examiner's marks will only be found on rifles that were completed with a telescope at H&H. They are in the same place as normal BSA produced rifles. On the top of the butt socket.

I have a 1944 M47C TR receiver here that has the "S" and both Enfield examiner's marks, as well as the usual "TR" marks. It has never had pads fitted and was found as a stripped barreled receiver among hundreds of such that were among the leftovers of Castle Armoury in Vancouver BC, many moons ago. There is not a shadow of doubt that the markings are original, so it would seem that there are exceptions to those rules as well.