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Trying to shoot out a broken pullthrough with a blank isn't the best idea but then, when you're just 20 and........... and it's late on a Friday and............ I say leave it stood upright and fill the barrel with oil and let it stand for the weekend now. THEN set about it with a blank!!!!!! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO......, just a joke!!!!!!! Then set about it with the 'ADAPTOR, screw, clearing as described above!
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04-04-2014 03:46 AM
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When I was very young, I stuck a pullthrough and brush and cloth in my FN C1...I was a trainee and we were out on the defensive position in the summer. I went to my section commander (who still lives about 20 miles from me today) and he cursed and swore and pounded with a rod, cleaning...He managed to force a blank into the chamber and close the action. He pointed it down range and fired...the pullthrough came out in two parts. I collected it and returned it to it's owner, a close friend. I'd already lost mine and he'd made me promise not to break his. I used that rifle for the rest of the training cycle with it showing no ill effect (to my eyes).
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These are shown in the 1933 A. G. Parker & Co. catalogue on page 72 under "Regulation Armourer's Tools", as "Guide, Muzzle". The barrel to which it is shown as fitted is a M.L.E. with the pressed foresight protector. The "Rod, Cleaning" also illustrated has a corresponding flat shoulder to stop the rearward movement of the rod.
No doubt A.G. Parker had purchased quantities of obsolete or WWI surplus armourer's tools in the 1920s.
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So if AJ brought them in the 20's then they should have the AJP gather this was pre Parker/Hale days but what does the 2 G.E.S on my guide suggest maker wise.
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Hi, Mine has AGP on the screw and body, it also has the 2 like the one in the photo and a broad arrow.
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You would never believe what the average crunchie will try to drag through a barrel. I have seen half a shirt, a tank sized piece of camouflage net.... Ok a bit of exaggeration there, but you get my dift. A line of 4" nails used to attempt to push the blockage backwards........ I mean....., if it ain't going forwards, then it ain't going to come out backwards either, especially with a line of nails, but nope........ they won't learn! Old screws, even a cleaning rod screwed into the blocked and now totally compressed 'stuff' SA80's that have been held over a fire to try to melt the old nylon pullthroughs out. Instead, it just melts the nylon into a heap of blob, all mixed in with the brass weight...............
Tankie, BinO, Son and Skippy will have even more examples. And guess what........ It's always late on a Friday after a week on the ranges and they're all trying to pxxx off home early for the weekend.
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What I recal seeing, from time-to-time, was a chamber cleaning brush ( I think) pushed into the gas tube- goes in OK, out not so. Like one of those Chinese finger trapping things. Not good news at all. Some disassembly required.
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Originally Posted by
RCEMERalf
a chamber cleaning brush pushed into the gas tube
Was that with the FN? That was the approved method of cleaning the gas cylinder, the brush was for that. It's in the book. CFP 318(2) It was supposed to go in alone though, without anything on it(cloth)...
Our armorer had a word of advise..."If you do it, that's one thing. Bring it to me. Don't do more and damage things." So that's the rule I lived by in later career. Problem is, I'd take the heat for the young soldier...Oh well...
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The chamber brush could be used to clean the FIRST part of the gas cylinder but they'd put it on a section of the cleaning rod from the LMG cleaning kit and try to push it all the way through and OUT of the piston hole at the body end. That's where the fun and games started. THEN they'd unwind the bloody thing thinking that you could....... and the brush part would come away from the........... and........... and.............. When it was really stuck, the really clever bloke in the section would just screw it harder until the threads sheared..................
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through and OUT of the piston hole at the body end
Uhhh...no, it won't go through that end...
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