WTK: 1903A3 Redfield Base Mount

[smlemon]

Why anyone would pay $400 for a genuine A4 base is a mystery as Redfield still makes the base, marked as were the originals except blued. I just ordered one from Brownells for under 30 bucks. It will get bead blasted and parked and could not be told from a "real" one.''

Lowering the rear dovetail on an A4 receiver probably would not make the scope mount sit lower as it would bottom out on the receiver ring. It would also ruin the receiver for reattaching the rear sight if the rifle failed trails.

The facts as I know them came from "the horse's mouth" and make perfect sense.

The other neat 03A4/3 mount is the Microdial from Buehler that has built in W&E adjustments. It is made for sporterized conversions so the front end needs to be beveled to clear the upper HG ring if you wish to use it with the military stock. They also suggest skimming a bit off the top of the rear dovetail and ensuring it is dead level. Works great on a "sporterized" A3 I have with a BalVar 8 on it.

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[JGaynor]

Why anyone would pay $400 for a genuine A4 base is a mystery as Redfield still makes the base, marked as were the originals except blued. I just ordered one from Brownells for under 30 bucks. It will get bead blasted and parked and could not be told from a "real" one.''

Lowering the rear dovetail on an A4 receiver probably would not make the scope mount sit lower as it would bottom out on the receiver ring. It would also ruin the receiver for reattaching the rear sight if the rifle failed trails.

The facts as I know them came from "the horse's mouth" and make perfect sense.

The other neat 03A4/3 mount is the Microdial from Buehler that has built in W&E adjustments. It is made for sporterized conversions so the front end needs to be beveled to clear the upper HG ring if you wish to use it with the military stock. They also suggest skimming a bit off the top of the rear dovetail and ensuring it is dead level. Works great on a "sporterized" A3 I have with a BalVar 8 on it.

The commercial Redfield jr Mounts are quite different in appearance, finish and markings from the military base used on the M1903A4.

Also the Lyman Alaskan model without external adjustments was not introduced until 1953 and was intended for use on sporting rifles with w&E adjustable mounts. in any case, although the Alaskan was approved for use on the A4 none were issued during original production.

Regards,

Jim

[Randy A]

smlemon,
Not sure where you got your information, but pretty much all of it is incorrect. As already stated the Alaskan you're refering to was most definitely "never" used. Although some coyotes trying to sell thier wares on ebay try to claim so. Also the zeroing process is done at 100 yds. If you're chasing an A4 or building an A4gery, you really should read these, specially the second one, pages 13 thru 25. Good stuff to know, will probably even save you some money.

http://www.90thidpg.us/Reference/Man...3_AT_A3_A4.pdf

http://www.90thidpg.us/Reference/Manuals/TM%209-270.pdf

On another note, adding to chucks comments on the current garbage Redfield base, a very large quantity of them wouldn't even fit the rifle correctly. When you tried to screw them down they sat on the action at an angle,,, sideways. I (and several others) contacted Redfield about it a few years ago but never saw any sort of response, like chuck, it's been about 4 years since I got one and I gladly got rid of the last one. Maybe now they have it fixed, dunno?

[Craig Eberhardt]

smlemon,
Not sure where you got your information, but pretty much all of it is incorrect. As already stated the Alaskan you're refering to was most definitely "never" used. Although some coyotes trying to sell thier wares on ebay try to claim so. Also the zeroing process is done at 100 yds. If you're chasing an A4 or building an A4gery, you really should read these, specially the second one, pages 13 thru 25. Good stuff to know, will probably even save you some money.

http://www.90thidpg.us/Reference/Man...3_AT_A3_A4.pdf

http://www.90thidpg.us/Reference/Manuals/TM%209-270.pdf

On another note, adding to chucks comments on the current garbage Redfield base, a very large quantity of them wouldn't even fit the rifle correctly. When you tried to screw them down they sat on the action at an angle,,, sideways. I (and several others) contacted Redfield about it a few years ago but never saw any sort of response, like chuck, it's been about 4 years since I got one and I gladly got rid of the last one. Maybe now they have it fixed, dunno?

Some photos of the correct base would be great!