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    Agree that it is a US WW2 bayonet for the M1icon Rifle (or the '03 Springfield, it will fit both but correct for the M1) but the scabbard is all wrong. It would be interesting to see a picture of the two, especially the scabbard.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gew8805 View Post
    Agree that it is a US WW2 bayonet for the M1icon Rifle (or the '03 Springfield, it will fit both but correct for the M1) but the scabbard is all wrong. It would be interesting to see a picture of the two, especially the scabbard.
    The scabbard is the right one, I`ve seen pics of it since asking questions about it on here. You are reading my post wrong. I said the OAL of the bayonet while in the scabbard is 15 1/4" long. Not the scabbard by it self is that long.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OLDER THEN DIRT View Post
    The scabbard is the right one, I`ve seen pics of it since asking questions about it on here. You are reading my post wrong. I said the OAL of the bayonet while in the scabbard is 15 1/4" long. Not the scabbard by it self is that long.
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    Hi, neighbor of mine brought a knife (as he called it) in a metal sheath (which is a bayonet)...
    Right here you said that it came in a metal sheath. That is what is confusing everybody. It should be in a plastic scabbard with a metal throat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Al Diehl View Post
    Right here you said that it came in a metal sheath. That is what is confusing everybody. It should be in a plastic scabbard with a metal throat.

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    Also, the total OAL of the bayonet and scabbard is not important, but the OAL of the scabbard is.

    By the way, the 10" bayonet is the M1icon Bayonet, to be used on the M1 Rifle, by a soldier wearing an M1 Helmet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Johnny Peppers View Post
    Also, the total OAL of the bayonet and scabbard is not important, but the OAL of the scabbard is.

    By the way, the 10" bayonet is the M1icon Bayonet, to be used on the M1 Rifle, by a soldier wearing an M1 Helmet.
    Led by a Platoon Leader armed with an M1 Carbine.

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    Ok guys, I`ll get it back & take some pics of it. By the way the bayonet has a claw lock on it & can go in the scabbard either way as the scabbard has a square hole on each side of it & the bayonet locks right in there like it should. Also I was in the Army in 1962 & the M1icon bayonet scabbard was metal that we carried.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OLDER THEN DIRT View Post
    M1icon bayonet scabbard was metal that we carried.
    Still, that would be the first one I've seen...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Al Diehl View Post
    Right here you said that it came in a metal sheath. That is what is confusing everybody. It should be in a plastic scabbard with a metal throat.

    Al

    Thanks Al, it should indeed be a metal throated platic scabbard, not a metal one.

    Older Than Dirt, please don't be offended, if your friend's US bayonet has a steel scabbard, it is the wrong one, length makes no difference. The US hadn't used a steel scabbard since the time of the Krag bayonet. We would need a photo of what he has to assure that we can give you proper information to help him. Barring that, for accurate information on the correct scabbard for the bayonet see:

    Bayo Points 6

    An excellent article by Gary Cunningham showing the development of the M3 and M7 US Scabbards for the M1905, the M1905E1 (Shortened M1905) and the M1icon bayonets and the M8 scabbard used for the M1 Carbine bayonets and later models for other US rifles..

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